J&L have none right now and said they are not sure when they will get any.

My understanding is that for J&L it is a "lost leader" because it has to go through CITES paperwork and brokerage which add up and not that feasible for them especially when SuperStore sometimes have them for sale less than what J&L has to sell them for. I wouldn't be surprised if they stop carry them altogether.

Superstore sells mangroves?

We were just at J&L on Sunday and wanted to purchase a couple but they were out...it appeared to me as though they were still going to be getting them in from what I understood.

Sarina

What about nurseries? Anyone ever seen them at a nursery?

Not sure if it is the same guy but what I got was 12 seed shoots about 4"-6" long. I am not sure if I did it correctly but I started mine in freshwater, it didn't take too long and the leaves were popping up. I am not a plant person and I know they live in fresh and saltwater conditions. I have heard that once you plant them and get them established with a good root sytem they dont' like to be moved. When a mangrove drops its seeds they look like little shoots, not like the seeds you plant in your garden..I would suggest you e-mail the guy in Hawaii and ask him what the best way to go is...I sold a few and still have about 6 plants doing well in a water feature in my office...beginners luck maybe..:biggrin:

yes super stores sells them, the ones i saw were four in a small pot of gavel in freshwater they were red mangroves with afew leaves, i saw them quite a wile ago and they were $10-15 for the four, i dont know if they still have them but if they iam going to try them if there still that cheap

On occasion, yes (so I've been told).

dsaundrey started in fresh water. I plan on putting them into my above reef tank's refugium. The mangrove drops it's seed and because of its' shape it stabs the substrate and then eventually sprouts. They grow in bayous and so receive both fresh water and salt water on a daily basis (tides).

Still am interested in a group buy :biggrin:

You need to acclimate mangroves quite slowly if they have been in freshwater. Often they will drop their leaves after shipping due to stress but I have always had them grow back. The thing is, they do not really grow in freshwater naturally. From the research I have done, there are very, very few found far enough up estuaries to be in freshwater. I have been told not to buy mangroves that are raised in freshwater but I think it would still be worth a shot. If they are cheap. If they are in freshwater though, you do not have to worry as much about magnesium because they are not using it as much to filter out salt. The other way some mangroves filter salt is by dropping their leaves but I do not believe Red mangroves do this. The nice thing about Red mangroves as well is that they do not need a substrate to grow, they will just root down onto LR.

I lived very close to mangrove swamps and estuaries in Florida and they are such cool trees. Its amazing how big and intricate their roots get. Even in Florida its hard and very expensive to get big mangroves because they are protected. You had to buy cultured trees and I used to see 4-5' trees selling for hundreds.

Oh by the way, what Superstore did you guys see them in? When was it?