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marie 05-03-2008 02:48 AM

Cyano is definitely phosphate driven, if your phosphates are higher then usual then a new bulb will just make it worse. Moving could have released the phosphates from your rock and sand.

Are you running any phosphate removers? If not, now would be a time to start. Increasing the flow where cyano seems to settle will help as well and of course doing that good old standby...lots of water changes :biggrin:

angelfan 05-03-2008 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 322001)
Cyano is definitely phosphate driven, if your phosphates are higher then usual then a new bulb will just make it worse. Moving could have released the phosphates from your rock and sand.

Are you running any phosphate removers? If not now would be a time to start. Increasing the flow where cyano seems to settle will help as well and of course doing that good old standby...lots of water changes :biggrin:

Sounds good. I just started with some phosphate sponge but I was unsure if that was the problem. Thanks! I thought I remembered reading that phosphate supports cyanobacteria growth but I wasn't sure.:lol: I'll let u know how it goes:biggrin:

mseepman 05-03-2008 05:16 AM

Thanks for the info, I will change up my phosguard tomorrow.

angelfan 05-04-2008 06:48 AM

36hrs of phosphate sponge and instantly all cyano is gone, even a little that was there when I put it in. Together with an extra water change it worked wonders, thanks for the help:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Greg

banditpowdercoat 05-04-2008 07:04 AM

Hmm, Is there anything else than Phos? I had a bad outbreak, right after I added more light??!!? 4 t5's over 2. Did a blackout, it disapeared, week later, coming back. Just got Salfert Phos kit, no reading??? Ir, is it not Cyano? Looks red and slimy like. Covering my sand. Not like it was, speckeled now, not a thick carpet like before

CRAP! Another Hobby 05-05-2008 10:00 PM

For BGA (cyano) to appear, it means that your params are out of whack. :sad:
BGA is capable of getting a stronghold in your tank when the nitrates and/or phosphates are out of "optimal" conditions.

There is a formula called the REDFIELD RATIO (RR). It is used to help prevent cyano outbreaks from starting. Here is how it works (whether for SW or FW set-ups)

(NITRATE/PHOSPHATE)x0.7= RR

The perfect RR (again for SW or FW) is 16.

Example:NO3and PO4 measured in mg/l
NO3/PO4* 0.7= Redfield Ratio
(10/.25)*0.7=28 With this RR you would have a significant outbreak of cyano.

SO what do you do...well...lets play with the numbers...
If we increase our NO3, the results are
(20/.25)*0.7=56 So we are going the wrong way with the RR.

What if we increase our PO4?
(10/.50)*0.7=14 Much better...but still not an RR of 16...plus its alot of PO4!

You can see that a small change in one param or another can have a huge impact. What you need to do is measure your 2 key params, then figure out which one is easiest, and safest, to adjust.

Keeping an RR of 16 will cause the cyano to slowly start dying away. Manually try to remove as much as possible. A huge mass of dying cyano can and will spike your params.

Hope this helps:biggrin:

angelfan 05-06-2008 03:37 AM

Thanks


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