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mseepman 02-27-2008 02:20 AM

I use a Quietone 3000 for my return pump from my sump and it's been really quiet. I have no complaints so far.

UnderWorldAquatics 02-27-2008 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 305076)
FYI, tried a MAG 18 in my 45g. Heated to 88F in 3 days from cold tap water. Way to much heat. I am now running a Pentair Quiet one 3000 for closed loop(pump is in Overflow) and a Mag3.5 in the Sump. just fine.

a mag 18 is alot larger bodied pump than the 7,9,or 12 that I recommended, and transfers alot more heat, and is very noisy compared to the smaller mag drive series.

Zylumn 02-27-2008 02:52 AM

I am a proud supporter of the Velocity Pump. It does unfortunately generate heat but it is extremely reliable, has great flow adjustment, and far quieter than the person with this opinion.
"my personal opinion, those pumps are not worth their weight in feces...."

Kevin

banditpowdercoat 02-27-2008 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderWorldAquatics (Post 305090)
a mag 18 is alot larger bodied pump than the 7,9,or 12 that I recommended, and transfers alot more heat, and is very noisy compared to the smaller mag drive series.


Yes, I know, but was using it as a comparosom.

UnderWorldAquatics 02-27-2008 03:44 AM

I found that they were quiet too, untill you need to scale back the flow, I found that this put considerable load on the motor and bearing, leading to high heat generation, and early failure of the pump. All these things form my opinion, my opinion is that they are a poorly designed pump not worth purchasing. This is an opinion of many people involved in the business end of the aquarium industry.

Interior_Reef 02-27-2008 04:20 AM

A snapper would do fine, very quiet, and works great, even when you have to restrict the flow. These pumps actually use less energy if you throttle them back.

I've had one for 2 years and its been great.

UnderWorldAquatics 02-27-2008 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Interior_Reef (Post 305116)
A snapper would do fine, very quiet, and works great, even when you have to restrict the flow. These pumps actually use less energy if you throttle them back.

I've had one for 2 years and its been great.

Im suprised by this statement, Im no expert on pumps, but I was under the impression that any pump would be under full load, or even excessive load when restricting the output of said pump??? Not being able to efficiently scavange the water would create turbulence at the impeller, forcing the motor to work harder to spin the impeller(motors are wound and loaded to spin at a certain RPM,I believe this is one reason why mag drive pumps dont heat up as much as wound motor pumps do when restricted). At least this was my understanding of basic fluid dynamics and impeller load... Please set me straight if Im under the wrong impression, curiosity strikes!

Interior_Reef 02-27-2008 05:22 AM

http://www.reeflopumps.com/images/flow_charts.xls

straight from the manufactures site.

UnderWorldAquatics 02-27-2008 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Interior_Reef (Post 305130)
http://www.reeflopumps.com/images/flow_charts.xls

straight from the manufactures site.

really annoyed that my computer is being a turd and I cant open the file...lol
any chance you could copy and paste it for me?

Interior_Reef 02-27-2008 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by UnderWorldAquatics (Post 305135)
really annoyed that my computer is being a turd and I cant open the file...lol
any chance you could copy and paste it for me?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...Untitled-1.jpg


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