got o golds I have dealt with bow valley before they are horrible, (likes to lie). I have had a couple tanks built through golds and they do a much better job, and they dont lie about how long it will be before you get the tank, I should have a custom tank hoppfully today thhat I had order form them I will post pics if it shows up today and then you can make the call. I got a 60g with herbies style external overflow returns in the euro brace starfire pannels and a custom sump designed by albert.

Lets here more about your tank now :)

My display is 72"l x 26"w x 24" high - 12mm starphire on the three viewable sides. I do not use standpipes, and do not see the issue with drilling the bottom of a tank.

Seeing as Albert just built my tank in the fall, thought I would offer my 2 cents. I am fairly new to this hobby (< 1 year) and am realising a lot of it is trial and error. When I had my tank/stand built, I thought I had everything exactly the way I wanted it, and wouldnt want anything done differently. Now that is is set up & running, there are several things I would have done different on both the tank and the stand. Overall I am definately happy with the tank the way it is, but when I upgrade :lol: I know what I will do differently.

Seeing as you seem to know exactly what you want, I think you will be fine. They herbie for overflow is awesome as many others will attest to, but I recommend tracking a gate valve down, even though Albert will tell me to suck it up and be patient with the ball valve :biggrin:

Goodluck, cant wait to see the build thread!

[quote=jasond;295135]I recommend tracking a gate valve down, even though Albert will tell me to suck it up and be patient with the ball valve :biggrin: [\quote]

LOL I hear ya!! I think I finally have my ball valve dialed in.. despite what Albert says it is a really is a pain in the backside! If I was to do it again I would order a gate online.

Had my tank built by Elite and was happy with it. Albert (golds) then convinced me of a few changes (specifically the Herbie) which he did for me, and I couldn't be happier. He also helped me with my piping and deisgn of the system. All my research was great, but talking to a guy who deals with aquariums for a living was an eye opening expereience. My best advice is Go Herbie!

Like I said, very opinionated.... I will be getting multiple quotes and have done my homework on this.

:P

Just a quick note when i got a quote done on a tank, I used 7 or 8 business's around north america. Everyone said they could drill the bottom (glass) but it would have to be minimum 3/4 inch think and tempered. Decided against it :)

Someone meantioned contacting miracles?? I was in contact woith them before about building me a tank. Not as sophisticated as yours, but price was great. I got their email here if you want

info@miraclesaquariums.com

go to gold's..great service