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banditpowdercoat 11-02-2007 02:34 AM

I also am looking for submersable pumps. I have a 45G in the works, with a closed l;oop manifold style return, but the return is coming from the 15g Sump. I was thinking of a Mag 1800,but would that be to much flow through the sump? I was only thinking tank turnover, not realizing how much is flowing through the sump. My setup is not set in stone yet. I do have space I can hide a submersable in my Overflow chamber. The main reason I went closed loop manifold style is I do not want powerheads visible and sticking to the glass.

Buddyboy 11-02-2007 12:16 PM

Thanks for all the responses folks! I've made up my mind and will go with the 1250. Sounds like an Eheim is worth the extra bucks! :)

smp 11-02-2007 01:44 PM

I have the 1260 and I love it. It was an upgrade from my previous mag 9.5.
I never had any problems with the mag mind you, but it was a little louder than the eheim.

andresont 11-15-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddyboy (Post 279468)
Well, I thought about going with a Mag pump, but for the extra $30, I think the reliability and peace of mind is worth it!

In any case, it sounds like the 1250 might be a go??? That would be roughly 3x turnover. And what about that? Some people say 2x turnover is sufficient and some say 10x!!! I'm confused! :p

10x or more turn over means inside the display tank for internal flow.
For example i have a lot of flow for sps corals(6000 g/hr + wave box 5000g/hr on 60 gal tank)
3xhr turn is good for return from your sump to main display.
Personally i think slow return rate from the sump is better it provides more time for skimmer to process the water before it will go back to main tank
HTH

ron101 11-15-2007 04:34 PM

Ive got a 1262 and have been very satisfied with it. Its WAY more than I needed - I probably could have used a 1250 instead...

Buddyboy 11-15-2007 04:36 PM

What size tank and sump do you have Ron?

ron101 11-15-2007 04:49 PM

90 Gal tank w/27 gal tank for sump.

The overflow and plumbing will keep up with it at full output but it will generate a lot of microbubbles. IMO using relatively large return pumps in order to get increased tank turnover requires good sump baffle design.

jasond 11-17-2007 02:19 AM

Bud, make sure and give us an update once you have that pump up and running!

Myka 11-17-2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddyboy (Post 279468)
Well, I thought about going with a Mag pump, but for the extra $30, I think the reliability and peace of mind is worth it!

In any case, it sounds like the 1250 might be a go??? That would be roughly 3x turnover. And what about that? Some people say 2x turnover is sufficient and some say 10x!!! I'm confused! :p

Through some "technical math equation" the "perfect" turnover is 6.1x for a reef. This will pass 99.9% of the tank water through your sump every 24 hours. I have ~7x turnover on my reef (the closest to 6.1 I could get). Many people with FO or FOWLR like 10x turnover, but it is really considered a waste of electricity.


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