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mark 01-11-2008 06:38 PM

Not that I would do it but wondering something...

I have a tank that is ~6' long with 2-250W pendents with T5 on both sides. Would I be able to replace with one 250W on a light rail going end to end? I see the gain in dropping one pendant and ballast (save on energy and less heat) but there's obviously a drop in the overall light the tank would receive. See increasing photoperiod, going to 400W etc, but wondering how this would be correctly adjusted from the fairly typical setup (bulb for every 2-3' and 8-9 hour photoperiod)?

littlesilvermax 01-11-2008 06:47 PM

My tank is over 7 feet and I use 3 250 watt halides with the lgiht rail.

I don't think a 6 footer would work with 1 halide. It is not like the sun, where it changes angle but is always shining on the reef through-out the day.

mark 01-11-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlesilvermax (Post 293565)
I don't think a 6 footer would work with 1 halide. It is not like the sun, where it changes angle but is always shining on the reef through-out the day.

Why not though, there must some measurement like lux or PAR/meter²/hour from a reef to match.

digital-audiophile 01-11-2008 07:01 PM

Wouldn't you have major shaded areas with just one halide on a rail over 6ft?

littlesilvermax 01-11-2008 07:19 PM

Let's take a reef at 9am and then again at 3 pm in Fiji for instance.

At 9 am the sun is at a 45 degree angle and then it is right overhead at noon and then again at a 45 degree angle at 3 pm. The sun would be directly hitting the reef for the whole 6 hour period (sure a cloud might block the sun for a while, but there would still be a high par value even then) just at diferent angles.

With a 6 foot tank (halide between 6 to 10 inches from water) and one 250 halide there would be a couple of options:

1) most popular because all of the light rails I have seen move back and forth with only up to a min delay in between moves. the corals (as individuals, not as a group) would see light then very minimal light then light.......

2) get a light rail that moves the light across once in a day. the corals will only get a couple hours of intense light per day.

Make sense now?

mark 01-11-2008 07:52 PM

If running a single small pendant would be thinking something that continually goes back and forth.

We are already playing games with algae lighting (24/7) and corals having spot lighting, instant off and on with timers, overall durations different than the reef, some people running 250W bulb and others 400w or T5s or different spectrum on the same species. Just wondering lightwise, how much we can fool the coral so they believe there under the surf in Fiji.

Also at what point would this be annoying to the viewer.

Skimmerking 01-11-2008 10:35 PM

Jayson from SWC has a 300 gallon a 8 footer and has 2 mh on a rail a 175 and a 250....

littlesilvermax 01-12-2008 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 293633)
Jayson from SWC has a 300 gallon a 8 footer and has 2 mh on a rail a 175 and a 250....

Keep in mind that Jayson (who has the same light rail as I do) has about 12 T5s over that 300.

It is almost hard to notice where the halides are.

Skimmerking 01-12-2008 03:07 AM

Oh i guess he added some more lighting to his tank I didn't know that

fkshiu 01-12-2008 05:12 AM

I agree that one MH on a rail over a 6' tank probably isn't enough. I had originally planned on 2 pendants along with supplemental T5 lighting for my setup. In end the low ceiling in my basement did in the light rail plan, but I'm still a fan of the theory behind keeping corals out of direct intense light 100% of the time.


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