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TheReefGeek 02-15-2006 11:52 PM

Where do I get these good T5 reflectors from? I am building the canopy myself.

TheReefGeek 02-16-2006 12:04 AM

Great link Ruth, thanks!

Quagmire 02-16-2006 12:13 AM

I fell in love with that tank the first time I saw it :) It had alot of influence on my decision to go with T5s

exee 02-16-2006 12:27 AM

my system is 6 bulbs over a 72 gallon tank. corals are doing find under it seem to have adjusted to it ok. I don't have SPS though so I don't know how they would have changed due to the change in lighting.

My bulbs are
2 atinic + bulbs
3 Blue + (11000k)
1 daylight (6500k)

its very bright :P looks a bit goofy over my system as its a bow front and the ends of the light stick out a bit over the narrow parts of the tank. It came with some thigns to help you hang it, I just had to get some chain from home depot and was good to hang.

I got the light from Fin-Ominal Fish in Richmond. They got it from Ocean Aquatics i think, they have the systems on their website.

i wil try to post pictures of my setup soon

DanG 02-16-2006 02:24 AM

My lights came from Saltwater connection and it's the retrofit kit. Ballast, waterproof end caps and 2 reflectors. It's made by Coravue.

TheReefGeek 02-16-2006 02:31 AM

I have decided to blast this tank with a 400w XM 20K MH, I had the ballast lieing around so it was cheaper this way, just needed a reflector and bulb.

Thanks for all the great T5 info though, I will definately have to consider it for future tanks.

StirCrazy 02-16-2006 12:32 PM

actually PC's are a T4 not a T5 and are inherently more intense than T5's if you compare apples to apples. if you want to compare the two you cannot use a HO T5 as it is a higher current using bulb. at any rate I have seen a couple T5 tanks and after all the hype I was not impressed with the T5's... they did nothing that VHO or PC couldn't do.

Steve

danny zubot 02-16-2006 02:36 PM

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Well there you have it, thanks Steve.

My beef with any florescent light is that you can achieve the light shimmering effect inside tank that MH gives you.

TheReefGeek 02-16-2006 02:44 PM

Steve, do you think VHO or PCs could maintain the tank that Ruth linked to on RC?

StirCrazy 02-17-2006 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReefGeek
Steve, do you think VHO or PCs could maintain the tank that Ruth linked to on RC?

well judging from that page he is running all HO T'5s so it is hard to say. Most of the T5s we see are just NO versions and yes a VHO or PC would do a better job.

as for his tank, this is one problem I have with internet and posting pics.. is the picture an exact representation of the tank or is the saturation bumped up a little and the colors enhanced. Or is he rather well off and can hand select premium corals. what are his nutrients his Alk, ect.. I had found that when my Alk was at 13 my digitata went from real nice color to stunning color so there is a lot more than lighting that affects color.

One advantage of the T5's is the physical amount you can pack under a hood but this is also a disadvantage once a year when you have to replace them:mrgreen: it would be far cheaper to go with MH and also get a lot more intensity.

I have tried almost every lighting combination in the last 4 years and I could have saved about 5 or 7K by going to MH right away. Its a good thing T5's weren't around then or I probably would have waisted money on that set up also:redface:

If you look at the cost for a T5 set up (about 500.00 in Victoria for a 4 bulb NO t5 setup) and look at a dual 250 watt HQI setup running SE bulbs they are about the same. I would only guess at the price of a true HO T5 set up here as I haven't seen one, but I would estimate about 6 to 700.00 in Victoria. I can run to J&L and get everything I need for the HQI set up for say .. hmm 300 for the dual ballast, 100 for reflector with dual socket assembly's, and say 160 for two bulbs.

a T5Ho set up is (say a 8 tube 48" set up) 33 bucks per tube 264.00, 16.00 per endcap and stand off so 128 if they come in pairs, 141 each for 4 ballast to run an 8 bulb setup so 564.00, and then reflectors say 100.00ish

so in the end the MH which will give you a lot more intensity costs about 560.00 where initial set up of the T5 costs 1056.00

the big thing is on going costs, 160ish a year for MH replacement and going from the recommended 9 month life for T5's you are looking at 352.00 per year based on 9 month change out or 264/year if you run them for 12 months.

is it going to save you any money on your power bill? if the 4 foot ts'5 are 55 watt then you are talking about 60 watts +or- less ..... nothing to worry about in my opinion as it will never off set the difference in bulb price or even come close.

Steve


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