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muck 07-06-2005 06:19 PM

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Please dont put them back as who knows what kind of disease or whatnot it could have picked up from your tank. You don't want to introduce some parasite or what have you into local waters. Putting them back now is not an option. :frown:

i'm pretty sure whatever he can introduce, will not to do any harm to the ocean..

Its thinking like that that helps cause damage to our ecosystems.. :frown:

danny zubot 07-06-2005 06:20 PM

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i'm pretty sure whatever he can introduce, will not to do any harm to the ocean..
You'd be surprised at what can happen when one creature dies off. A cascading effect can occure that causes multiple issues. Like I said before, when the urchins of the Caribean all died suddenly (unknown reason) the reefs ALL started to die. This is because the urchins weren't there to clean off the macro algea and create optimal growing conditions for SPS and LPS corals. In turn, all of the organizms that require these types of corals for their survival died off too, and so on. Only recently have major breeding opperations have begun to try and re-propigate the urchin populations, and on test reefs they have already noticed increased coral growth where urchins have returned. At a mear cost of millions to the American tax payers.

So you see, any small change in Earths delicate ecosystems effects us all.

Cheers!

adidas 07-06-2005 07:19 PM

just don't think anything that could be in our tanks is an issue... i'm more concerned with ships spewing their exhaust,oil... what about sewage etc. etc.

adidas 07-06-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by muck
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Originally Posted by adidas
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Originally Posted by muck
Please dont put them back as who knows what kind of disease or whatnot it could have picked up from your tank. You don't want to introduce some parasite or what have you into local waters. Putting them back now is not an option. :frown:

i'm pretty sure whatever he can introduce, will not to do any harm to the ocean..

Its thinking like that that helps cause damage to our ecosystems.. :frown:

lol we are talking one anemone, getting put back into trillions of gallons of water...... i'm pretty sure there is enough dilution going on....

ever swim in the ocean??

HimSelf 07-06-2005 07:23 PM

Wow never thought 3 amanos would start all this...
 
Wow never thought 3 ananos from the local waters can cause the sea to die :eek: Well I had them in my big tank for 9 month now and all they do is eat, split, and keep on growing. My tank temp is at 75F and looks like they are loving the warm temp. The local Amanos can be found along the west cost of North America so that mean they also live in the warm waters of CA. That is why I started this test and it just shows that they can live in both warm and cold waters. Also if you walk down to the beach you can see that when the tie goes out these ananos can site with out water and under hot sun for hours and still be alive :eek: They are very hardy!!

I will try to post some pics after the pink one finsh spliting.

muck 07-06-2005 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by muck
Please dont put them back as who knows what kind of disease or whatnot it could have picked up from your tank. You don't want to introduce some parasite or what have you into local waters. Putting them back now is not an option. :frown:

i'm pretty sure whatever he can introduce, will not to do any harm to the ocean..

Its thinking like that that helps cause damage to our ecosystems.. :frown:

lol we are talking one anemone, getting put back into trillions of gallons of water...... i'm pretty sure there is enough dilution going on....

ever swim in the ocean??

Ive been in the ocean numerous times. But my point is...
If a non-native species of parasite (or anything really for that matter) gets into the local waters and starts to flourish and outcompetes the native species for food, or even feasting on the native species. Pretty soon you are left with none of the original species. There is a great potential for disaster when you think like that. Oh and btw parasites do not dilute in water.. :rolleyes:

Johnny Reefer 07-06-2005 08:15 PM

I gotta agree with Muck on this. A couple of examples I can think of are the Zebra Mussel on the Great Lakes and, now don't quote me on this, but I believe there has recently been some debate here on the West Coast, lately, about farmed Atlantic Salmon and sea lice associated with that fish and that the lice is perceived to be encroaching on wild indigenous salmon stocks.

I vote to not return the anemones to the ocean. Sure, the chances of any contamination are probably remote, but unless the person is a marine biologist that knows what they are doing, why take the chance? Best to leave well enough alone, IMHO. Oh ya, and not take anymore unless legally allowed.

Cheers,

danny zubot 07-06-2005 09:35 PM

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I had no idea that you've had them for 9 months already. They are hardy indead. I guess they must be used to temperature fluctuations and what not. Tell us more about the tank they are in; size, flow, ph, other tankmates etc. And yes, pics would be awsome.

Delphinus 07-06-2005 10:12 PM

There's nothing saying that a person can't have a successful cool or cold water SW tank going, if given the proper care and attention...

However, if you think hobbyists cannot damage the natural environment, read on.

Caulerpa taxifolia has wreaked havoc by becoming endemic in several areas in which it is non-native. Guess how it got into those areas? Look no further than fellow hobbyists carelessly disposing of cuttings. Seems we are far from innocent in this hobby. Several jurisdictions ban the traffic of this species altogether due to the irresponsible methods of disposal in the past.

http://aquat1.ifas.ufl.edu/seagrant/cautax2.html
http://www.ridnis.ucdavis.edu/Caulerpataxifolia.html
http://www.tijuanaestuary.com/exotics.asp
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/southeast...ulerpamain.htm
http://www.projectpacific.org/caulerpa_taxifolia.html
http://ozreef.org/content/view/94/2/

Interesting quote from this last site:
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Within the state of New South Wales, it was listed as a noxious marine vegetation in October 2000 and cannot be bought, sold or traded with fines of up to $11,000 for breaking these rules. It was allowable to keep it within a fully contained aquarium until December 2004, but it has now been upgraded to a prohibited species.
Can you imagine? Wow, eh? :eek:

Xtasia 07-06-2005 11:01 PM

I assume Amanos/Ananos are Anemones? or are we talking about Amano Shrimp?

Enlighten me please. This is a new critter and I can't seem to wrap my head about what it looks like.


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