They laid their eggs on a sword plant, but i could not move the sword plant into the breeding tank because I don't have strong enough light in the breeding tank to keep it from disolving. I put some upright slate and pvc tubes in there... hopefully they are not so stressed about the change of tanks, and substrate that they will still lay the eggs.

The mating tank is bare bottom, but has 90% of the water from the community tank, thus, same tempurature, hp, etc...

What do you think?

I'm going to try to take a picture of the tanks for more information.

I think you are good to go They should lay again. Probably on the slate
When they laid last time was it in a community tank?
If it was it is possible the other fish may have eaten the eggs too.
Are you going to try to let the parents tend the eggs the next time they lay or are you going to remove the eggs?
Did you check out the link I posted?
If not check it out lots of usful tips there
here's one more link http://www.geocities.com/river_angels/breeding1.html

So for right now...

I should just wait for them to lay the eggs.. try not to stress them out, feed them high quality foods...

I read somewhere that big water changes are crucial in angelfish breeding, but every time I do a water change, my 'stud' gets so stressed out he can't eat for a few days... How often should I do water changes? I was thinking I should probably wait until they spawn again, but 2 weeks is a LONG time to wait!

My experience is they will spawn anyways But that is just my experience If you have a good pair they will spawn every couple weeks sometimes I do lots of water changes and sometimes I get lazy and don't do any for a few weeks yet I still get a spawn from my pair but others may be different. I'm not sure on that. I remember back quite a few years when I was younger I had the same experience. My fish would still spawn regularly and back then there were not alot of water changes done as I was younger and didn't know that I had to do water changes. LOL
But now I am older and wiser and do know now why you have to do water changes
I 'm not sure what to do in your situation but if you think they will be spooked to much I would probably wait to let them settle into thier new enviroment especially if you just moved them to this tank and providing you have good filteration on the tank

But the flip side of this is the more water changes you do the more used to water changes the fish will be and thus less spooked
Are you planning on parent raising the spawn or removing the eggs and hatching them out seperate ?[/quote]

well my fish are fine by water changes.. but this all came about because my friend asked me to babysit her angel while she moved to edmonton... low and behold, her lone angelfish boy, fell in love with one of my young nubile fishy girls....

She didn't do alot to her tank so her boy fish is very sensitive... mine angels are totally used to water changes so used to my general noise and cacophony.

I noticed tho, whenever I did a water change, her boy would get really stressed out.. Right now I have a hang on filter and 2 weightd sponge filters, borrowed from SeaHorseFanatic... No substrate. 4 pieces of slate, some low maintenance, low light water sprite growing on the surface, and 2 tubes of PVC...

I haven't decided if I'm goign to tank raise them or not... My friend is only letting me babysit her boy-fish for 3 months so I want to be sure to get 1 batch out of them... And knowing that they ate the first batch, doesn't make me too inclined to let them try it on their own...

What do you think...?

My options seem to be..

grow them alone in the 20g..
grow them alone in the 1g inside the 20g.
let the parents try...

Would kinda be cool to se the parents do it.. but with my inexperience won't I spook my already cowardly stud into doing something horrible to the babies?

Every breeding pair of angels I ever had (several in the 80s & 90s) ate their first batch at least, sometimes several batches before they usually settled down to being good parents. Unfortunately, some never learn.

Anthony

Antony those that never learned were the upperclass of the Angelfish society and they actually did learn. They learned that fine dinning equates to Caviar

:eating:

EGGS!
 

This morning I woke up to find my angel oddly deflated... (flat again)... After looking around a bit I noticed EGGS ON THE PVC, Woo oooooooo hooooooo!!

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/sho...oto=2284<br />

Mom is very dilligent in fanning the eggs, where as Dad is busy looking scary at the front of the glass (tho he does take an OCCASSIONAL shift).

I'm thinking I'll let them try to raise this batch until she starts eating them.. So far so good.

If this fails, next batch will be 100% artificially raised...

If this goes well, I will take you along for the ride with pictures as it progresses...

Should I make it such that the light doesn't go on and off (scaring them?).

I read somewhere that it is best to keep the lights on for this period. Any input? I have a few days before I have to do anyting else right? I don't really want to start a brine culture unless I'm sure they will raise them...

at 24 hours... the angels ate them again... try again next week &lt;sighs>

Next time i'm taking the parents away..