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StirCrazy 09-15-2004 12:58 AM

personaly I think it was more a factor of other things rather than to jump out and blame it on global warming. wasps run in a 4 year cycle for poupolation and this year is the last year so there are way more than normal. second because of the unseasonal high temps from the warm front comming out of the US this summer there were unusaly high temps all over Canada especialy around the last couple weeks of august. this also cause the weather to be dry which makes wasps more agressive in looking for food and causes them to expand there range. so it isn't surprising to me realy.

Steve

Invigor 09-15-2004 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy
Its all good, in 50 years I will have tropical ocean front property for sale and retire a billionair :cool:

did you see the front page of the national post today? You can buy a small waterfront town in BC for $7mil.

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Property boasts 90 homes, a mall and a hospital part of b.C.
VANCOUVER - The town of Kitsault in northern British Columbia boasts 90 homes, several apartment buildings, a shopping centre and even a hospital. And it can be yours for $7-million.
http://www.canada.com/national/natio...2-71318bfdb47c

Delphinus 09-15-2004 05:14 AM

Well those are some interesting points. Steve, can you point us to some references to this 4-year cycle for wasps? I tried some cursory searches on the net but couldn't come up with anything.

But .. Steve, I'm kind of surprised by your assertion that the last part of August was unseasonably warm for most places in Canada. I thought I had heard exactly the opposite? I.e., for most or at least a lot of parts of the country, August was in fact unseasonably cool (and wetter than normal as well).

FWIW, I never used the term "global warming." I feel that term is a bit anachronistic .. I prefer "climate change." I think the "warming" term refers to the prediction that the average global temperature rising by something like 1 degree, which, sounds almost insignificant ... But if you take into account the different extremes that comprise that average, I think that "change" is just more accurate.

But, of course, it could just be that some wasps hitched a ride on a plane, or a boat or whatever, up to Baffin Island. It's not like human activity / travelling doesn't help the spread of species into new territories, and that of course has nothing to do with climate change (although it does have everything to do with "human activity" impacting the natural order. But like I (tried to) hint at earlier ... as long as there are people travelling about, I think that sort of thing is going to happen regardless.)

cheers

Quinn 09-15-2004 05:44 AM

This summer was horribly cold for the most part here in Alberta... luckily I spent a few weeks in the warmer corners of the country and escaped at least some of the rain.

StirCrazy 09-15-2004 12:56 PM

ok the 4 year cycle thing was all over the news in the summer.. all I know about it.

as for unseasonaly hot in august, was over 34 degrees (over 37 for 1 week alone) for most of it in victoria, usaul temp for that time of year 24.

the east coast was also haveing hot weather.. but I recall the middle of canada was cooler than normal when I think about it now.

Steve

Delphinus 09-15-2004 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy
as for unseasonaly hot in august, was over 34 degrees (over 37 for 1 week alone) for most of it in victoria, usaul temp for that time of year 24.

Wow. You should have sent some of that over to your neighbours.

We were lucky if it broke 15. :frown:

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the east coast was also haveing hot weather.. but I recall the middle of canada was cooler than normal when I think about it now.
All I can remember for sure is Alberta through to Ontario were waiting for the "dog days of summer" that never came. Not sure about Quebec though. So I guess it all just went to the sides of the country and forgot about the middle.

reefhawk 09-16-2004 12:09 AM

well being an entomolagist and having over 25 years in the field I feel qualified to comment on population peaks and cycles amongst wasps. In my part of the world (B.C.) it is readily accepted that most nuisance wasps go through a 7 year cycle. Having said that climatic conditions certainly can affect the cycle. This year was the 6th year in the cycle but due to ideal conditions here in the okanagan it was the worst (best if ya like em) year i have ever experienced. Next year being the peak year has the POTENTIAL given the right conditions to be an even heavier year for populations of wasps to thrive. I suspect the four year figure was tossed out by some poor exterminator during a tv interview and this mis- information has been repeated enough times it is now "media" fact.

StirCrazy 09-16-2004 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by reefhawk
best if ya like em.

um who like them? so the news was wrong that sucks cuz I remember them running it several times for like a week saying it was 4 year and this was the last.. now you ruined my day telling me they are going to be worse next year.. well guess I will pick up a couple more eppie pens :rolleyes:

Steve

Quinn 09-16-2004 04:31 AM

Entomologists probably like them... :lol:

EmilyB 09-22-2004 07:06 AM

Barry doesn't particularly like them right now.

He's been at the Foothills for several IV sessions and has been downright miserable with the pain and itching.

Not from an allergy, but an infection from the bite. :eek: They actually sent him for tests for the flesh eating thingy.

Wasps suck.
:evil:


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