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vanreefer 01-04-2015 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 928474)
I left them in the acid for about 2-3 hrs, until the bubbles had all stopped and popped. Then added the baking soda and let that sit for another hour just to make sure.

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Once it was all done there were still a few brown areas on the pukani.

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Originally Posted by FishyFishy! (Post 928476)
When I did it, I poured acid in, waited until the reaction was over, then poured more in until the reaction stopped. Then I let it sit for a couple hours. Then did baking soda.

How much mass do u guys think u lost?
Thanks
VR

Easto 01-05-2015 12:54 AM

I only left my rock in for 5 minutes or so. I don't know what the magic number is, but I know I can always put it in again if I needed to.

It was bubbling like crazy and I wasn't sure what was all going on under there so I dumped the baking soda in between the 5 - 10 minute mark.

As far as losing mass, I didn't notice any. I am sure you lose some, but I don't think it's significant.

Today was the only above freezing day I think we may have for a while. I was in a bit of a rush. I think I might just toss it in a bin and let it cycle in the dark for a while in the basement.

WarDog 01-05-2015 01:21 AM

To be honest I didn't even think about the loss of mass. If I had to answer I'd have to say not much.

Bblinks 01-05-2015 07:37 AM

Where did you get the acid?

davej 01-05-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 928630)
Where did you get the acid?


You can get it at Home Depot. In the tile section.

WarDog 01-05-2015 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 928630)
Where did you get the acid?

Or Canadian Tire.

Bblinks 01-05-2015 08:46 AM

Cool thanks guys:biggrin:

nbreau 01-05-2015 10:33 AM

Not looking to hijack the thread but could you please explain the purpose behind this process ? Is it necessary or does it simply speed up the cycle time ? I'm setting up a 90 gallon and ordering about 60lbs from Eli and wondering if I can simply let it cycle in the new take over a few months with seed rock or should I be doing this process prior ?

thanks,
Nick.

Bblinks 01-05-2015 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nbreau (Post 928637)
Not looking to hijack the thread but could you please explain the purpose behind this process ? Is it necessary or does it simply speed up the cycle time ? I'm setting up a 90 gallon and ordering about 60lbs from Eli and wondering if I can simply let it cycle in the new take over a few months with seed rock or should I be doing this process prior ?

thanks,
Nick.

Acid dipping is necessary due to the left over organics in the rock which will cause a phosphate spike even long after the tank has been cycled. lots of people run into algae problem with there newly set up tank and ultimately give up after months of battling green hair algae (gha) with no success not knowing that it would've been prevented simply by curing your rock prior to placing them in to your tank. There are a few ways of curing your rock and one of them is to acid dip them then run them in a bin with saltwater, heater and pump for a month or two before placing them in your tank or some will skip the acid dipping part and just do the latter but thats all personal preference. There are a hundred ways to skin the cat but if you are getting dry rock especially pukani, you will need to do this.

Easto 01-05-2015 05:51 PM

If I took the rock out of the acid too soon is it essentially a waste of time?

Between the bleach and then acid I can see that a lot of crap came off the rocks, however there is still discoloration on the rocks.

Second, the rocks still have a bleach smell to them. They have been out of water for 2 days, but are wet still. I have a feeling they absorbed some of the bleach.

any idea how to make sure I get all of it out? I assume it will give me some issue if I try and cycle the rock with the bleach smell.


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