+1 for bow valley too. But it's a hit or miss. I had a great experience with them when I ordered my tank.

If you were inVancouver, BC, I would suggest Oceans by Design in Seattle.

Great custom cubes and a heck of a lots less than others mentioned.


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visa is not cash? ... you just got lucky and thats all ... I am not the only one with nightmare experiences with bow valley

You just need to know how to deal with him. Visa does not equal to cash. Think about it :wink:

still ............ any payment should be seen as equal. you wouldnt want what has happened to many of the people i know to happen to you, its sad and just not right.

if you end up being out a 100$ no biggie right? well i know and have fixed the problems of many who were out thousands...not hundreds but thousands and brought tears as they never recouped that money( cash deal right)

these are family members, honest people who work hard for their money ,do they really deserve to be treated like that?


no of course not because its not right

thats all ill say on this:)


good luck!!

Welcome to the real world. If you are not willing to take a risk then dont do a cash deal. You as a buyer should of done your research before going in to a deal. It was really the buyers own stupidity to enguage in to cash deal with such a significant amount. Especially when they know they are dealing with a poorly rated vendor. I am not saying it right for the vendor to do such unethical acts. But comeon! The buyer is just plain stupid!

P.s. Cash is not equal to card when you deal with certain vendors. No paper trail = no liabilty. And think about taxes.

there you have it man you answered it yourself:)


i supposed if you pay a guy in crackers you get what you get right, but you have to understand that a real business doesn't go around choosing which customers to screw and not screw based on how they pay, alot of these people put trust in the builder just like they do for us, wouldnt you agree?


if it were you out that money you would be crying a different dance im absolutely sure and like i said i personally have had to fix some of these problems. one gentle that comes to mind found his ad on kijiji, met him paid CASH (i did that big so you wouldnt miss that part) and three months later got a tank that was way wrong in size, no overflows, chipped holes and when asked about it and to make the correct changes was told to get lost.......is this really what you promote for others to buy?

again i suppose, i mean its your money lol


im sure the gentle man above who had to get his money back from visa would agree , its tiresome, sad, poor practise and just not right....its really not.

thats all ill say on it as i can go all day , it is a buyer beware world ....so buyer beware;)


ps: fragalot!!

and that part is real scary, especially when your talking about a glass box that holds water and lots of electricity:)

Sorry I do not understand your sentences.

But yea. Go to concept. They are super!