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Proteus 12-03-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 863537)
To me it looks like it's mounted on some sort of plastic base that attaches to the glass somehow. You can see it below the powerhead itself. I don't see any space between that would be the glass between internal and external parts.

I think your right. Be more like the success power heads and controller

mrhasan 12-03-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 863537)
To me it looks like it's mounted on some sort of plastic base that attaches to the glass somehow. You can see it below the powerhead itself. I don't see any space between that would be the glass between internal and external parts.

Very good pointer. Didn't notice that. :redface:

Aqua-Digital 12-03-2013 09:54 PM

we will start importing the controllable skimmers in the spring, thats the bench marked release date.

As for the controllable wave pumps, we shall see, quality is key here. This is a new area for Bubble Magus so we will only import products that we have personally tested for a period of time.

Ron99 12-03-2013 10:23 PM

Honestly, I don't see the point of a controllable pump on a skimmer. The pump's output should be matched to the skimmer. Making it adjustable just gives the end user one more setting to get wrong and have to balance with other settings. I prefer just an adjustable output (wedge pipe/gate valve etc) to get your water level in the skimmer right and maybe an adjustable volute/venturi to adjust the air draw. That's all you need. Why add another complication?

Aqua-Digital 12-03-2013 10:30 PM

I agree mostly however there are some benefits, it removes the need for water level adjustment in the sump and can be turned down at times of heavy feeding or nutrient loading.

it is not by any means a requirement of a performance increase. It also allows for sellers to sell pumps that do not require canadian health approvals such as CSA and TUV as the units fall under the class 2 category.

uniboob 12-04-2013 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 863554)
Honestly, I don't see the point of a controllable pump on a skimmer. The pump's output should be matched to the skimmer. Making it adjustable just gives the end user one more setting to get wrong and have to balance with other settings. I prefer just an adjustable output (wedge pipe/gate valve etc) to get your water level in the skimmer right and maybe an adjustable volute/venturi to adjust the air draw. That's all you need. Why add another complication?

Also you can buy a skimmer that will suit your tank now, and still use same skimmer in an upgrade with all that needs to be done is turn up controller. I have heard many people using this feature currently on other controllable skimmers, as there bio load grows, they just then turn up skimmer.

Ron99 12-04-2013 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by uniboob (Post 863598)
Also you can buy a skimmer that will suit your tank now, and still use same skimmer in an upgrade with all that needs to be done is turn up controller. I have heard many people using this feature currently on other controllable skimmers, as there bio load grows, they just then turn up skimmer.

I'm still not sold. I don't think that's the way to adjust and balance a skimmer. The amount of flow should match the size of the body etc. to maximize dwell time and removal of DOC. So the flow should be matched to the skimmer and you can adjust skim by adjusting air draw for more or less bubbles and the water level in the skimmer for where the foam breaks. That's my understanding anyhow. :smile:

StirCrazy 12-04-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital (Post 863557)
It also allows for sellers to sell pumps that do not require Canadian health approvals such as CSA and TUV as the units fall under the class 2 category.


there is the absolutely best reason not to buy one in then, if sellers can't be bothered to get CSA approval for products then they have no right selling them in Canada, and yes I know they are exempt, but maybe they shouldn't be.

Steve

Ron99 12-04-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 863669)
there is the absolutely best reason not to buy one in then, if sellers can't be bothered to get CSA approval for products then they have no right selling them in Canada, and yes I know they are exempt, but maybe they shouldn't be.

Steve

+1 Good for the manufacturer. Keeps costs down so hopefully that translates to a cheaper retail price. But I suspect it benefits the manufacturer much more than the consumer.

Skimmerking 12-04-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron99 (Post 863647)
I'm still not sold. I don't think that's the way to adjust and balance a skimmer. The amount of flow should match the size of the body etc. to maximize dwell time and removal of DOC. So the flow should be matched to the skimmer and you can adjust skim by adjusting air draw for more or less bubbles and the water level in the skimmer for where the foam breaks. That's my understanding anyhow. :smile:

Ron exactly you hit the nail on the head... having a skimmer with a controller pump. isn't going to give you a bigger skimmer
you need
1. Contact time caused by
A. wider Chamber or B. Taller Chamber.
2. air bubbles to be finer this will be caused be the air you are letting in and the type of wheel to chop up.
3. yes a pump will help. However if your body isnt matched to the skimmers pump then you are not doing but pushing the skimmer to overflow. And allow the skimer to be inconsistant. turning up the pump on the skimmer will not cause a increase in performance. it will help alittle but in the end if you chamber is not big to keep the bubbles going for contact time. Then you are doing Crap.


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