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Lance 09-20-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PoonTang (Post 549997)
See i knew it was someone elses fault. ;)


Well I knew it couldn't be my fault. :mrgreen:

marie 09-20-2010 05:35 PM

Another 56 posts and you'll have me beat

*edit* Damn wrong thread :redface:

Lance 09-20-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 550016)
Another 56 posts and you'll have me beat


HaHa Wrong thread Marie. :mrgreen:

Yes, whereas you only post when you have something important to say, I on the other hand, tend to go on and on and on..............

christyf5 09-20-2010 05:52 PM

Good to hear you figured it out and that it was something "common sense" instead of being one of those stupid reef mysteries that will haunt you forever (I HATE those!!).

Lance 09-20-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 550025)
Good to hear you figured it out and that it was something "common sense" instead of being one of those stupid reef mysteries that will haunt you forever (I HATE those!!).


Yeah, I figured it had to be something with the dosing and not some voodoo curse or something. I still can't figure out why the tank sitter switched the pails though. I'll have to ask him when I see him. I only discovered it because I was looking for some clue and realized the older pail says: "Anhydrous Pellets" and the newer pail says "Crystalline Dihydrate".

Lance 09-21-2010 02:33 AM

For those of you who are using BRS Calcium Chloride, be aware that the newer product is 2.5 cups per gal of water vs. 2.0 cups in the older product.

PoonTang 09-21-2010 02:36 AM

Now come and fix my "reef mystery" and then everyone will know how smart you really are :)

lastlight 09-21-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 550196)
For those of you who are using BRS Calcium Chloride, be aware that the newer product is 2.5 cups per gal of water vs. 2.0 cups in the older product.

Lance are you saying the label instructions on the new containers is wrong?

Greenmaster 09-21-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 550284)
Lance are you saying the label instructions on the new containers is wrong?

No, he is saying that his containers got switched. (new/old) So he was over dosing.

Lance 09-21-2010 04:50 PM

Yup, like Greenmaster said.
BRS changed their product awhile ago and the new product requires 2.5 cups per gal whereas the old formula was 2 cups per gal. My tanksitter switched a new pail with an old pail.

Lance 09-27-2010 04:26 PM

It amazes me how quickly the tank buffered itself and reached equilibrium. After I discovered the Ca/Alk problem, I quit dosing calcium and continued to dose the usual 230ml of Alk. Within 48 hours the parameters were at: Ca 420, Alk 8 and pH 8.1 (Right back to where they were before the trouble.) I wish everything in this hobby was this easy. :lol:

MitchM 09-27-2010 04:37 PM

Something GOOD happening fast.
You don't hear about too often!:cool:

Mitch

Lance 10-07-2010 11:53 PM

A few questions for the Nem experts......... Tony?

My BTA has been growing like crazy lately. Probably doubled in size in the last 4 to 5 months. It's now about 14" across with tentacles 6" long. I feed it twice a week: one day a 1/2" long shrimp and four days later half a silverside.
I'm certainly no expert on nems and was wondering if it's pretty much full grown now. Is this growth spurt leading up to splitting?


http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...0/IMG_1972.jpg

PoonTang 10-07-2010 11:55 PM

Nope...its just telling you that your going to be doing a upgrade sooner than you thought lol.

MitchM 10-08-2010 12:15 AM

I think that Tony's certainly the anemone expert here, but I'll share my experience with BTA's - a number of years ago I had around thirty-some splits from my BTA's, 12" - 14" was the biggest that they got. I think I was able induce them to split by doing larger water changes (~20%) with room temperature water.
The anemones were in a DSB with live rock sump for the most part. I had slow water rate turnover from the main tank so the main tank wasn't affected as much.
But there still were splits happening in the main tank.

Mitch

Lance 10-08-2010 12:45 AM

Thanks for the info MitchM. Sounds like it's about done growing in size then.
On a different note: Where is Water Valley? I've never heard of it before.

MitchM 10-08-2010 12:49 AM

About 1 1/2 hours northwest of Calgary, in the foothills.
We have a 4-way stop, a saloon (with a place to tie up horses) and a grocery store.:smile:
Oh..and a separate liquor store across the street ...lol

Mitch

Lance 10-08-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MitchM (Post 554441)
About 1 1/2 hours northwest of Calgary, in the foothills.
We have a 4-way stop, a saloon (with a place to tie up horses) and a grocery store.:smile:
Oh..and a separate liquor store across the street ...lol

Mitch


Oh yeah I found it. Highway #579. Kinda out in the middle of nowhere isn't it?
Foothills, saloon with a hitching rail, liquor store. Must be cowboy country? :mrgreen:

MitchM 10-08-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 554484)
...
Foothills, saloon with a hitching rail, liquor store. Must be cowboy country? :mrgreen:

Yes, it's all that and more!:mrgreen:

Mitch

Delphinus 10-08-2010 03:05 PM

I found that there didn't seem to be a huge correlation between size and when they'd split. Well, sort of, and sort of not. If some wanted to split at say 4" then usually they'd split some time after reaching 4", but there'd still be the occasional bigger one or occasional smaller one.

When I started off in the hobby I just used a copious amount of regular normal output fluorescents over my tank. I found that when I switched that tank over to halides the anemones all changed their max sizes to about double.

But it just seems to me they will pick a size to be at and that's sort of that (there is probably a host of variables). The largest BTA I ever saw was an enormous beast, some public aquarium I was at ... think it was London of all place. Anyhow it was easily 18" across. They had mislabelled it as H. magnifica but I'm pretty sure it was BTA (bubble tips and everything. Also it was your typical brown colour of BTA). I have two roses right now that are clones and one is 4"-5" and the other maybe 2" at best. I feed them both the same. I have another one in the same tank and he's barely 1" and I feed him as much as I can. One thing I do notice though is that both small ones are on rock that I'm having a very difficult time removing caulerpa from so there could be some allelopathy going on. (If I could just put the rock in the big cube the tangs and rabbit would eradicate the caulerpa but the butterflies would probably mistake little BTA's as big majano's so that's sort of a no-go!)

Wow, what a long winded way of saying "I don't really know." In any case, your BTA sure does look awesome. :)

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 554425)
A few questions for the Nem experts......... Tony?

My BTA has been growing like crazy lately. Probably doubled in size in the last 4 to 5 months. It's now about 14" across with tentacles 6" long. I feed it twice a week: one day a 1/2" long shrimp and four days later half a silverside.
I'm certainly no expert on nems and was wondering if it's pretty much full grown now. Is this growth spurt leading up to splitting?


http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...0/IMG_1972.jpg


Lance 10-08-2010 04:40 PM

Thanks for the info Tony. Hopefully it stays this size; any bigger and I'll have to start moving corals away from it. Am I feeding a BTA of this size enough? (see my last post) I'm sure it gets some mysis, etc. from the fish feedings and it is certainly getting enough light.

Delphinus 10-08-2010 09:22 PM

Seems fine to me. They need to eat but they don't need to eat a lot. If you're happy with it (and it seems to be doing well) you could just continue on. Alternatively you could probably easily get away get away without the silverside and just feed weekly. Silversides are a little bit messy, kinda oily and I've heard stories on RC of people losing, or almost losing their anemones after they suspected was "a bad silverside". Usually those were in reference to carpets though, I've never heard the same thing said about a BTA, but then BTA's are more resilient overall so it's probably not even a concern.

I tried feeding various things to anemones including mussels, clam, fish meat, mysis, shrimp/prawn .. I found with BTA's they tended to eat shrimp with the most gusto. Fish with less gusto and shellfish the least (in fact would usually get spat out the next day). It seemed to me anyhow that BTA's were preferring shrimpy food. Nowadays I pretty much just give mine mysis and/or krill.

lobsterboy 10-08-2010 09:29 PM

hey lance, nice tank

Lance 10-08-2010 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lobsterboy (Post 554670)
hey lance, nice tank

Thanks! :biggrin:


And Tony, that's good to know about the silversides. I should probably chuck out the last of them anyway. They're going on a year old.

Lance 10-10-2010 01:36 AM

WANTED: Hair algae. (You don't hear that very often).
TORO, my LM Blenny is looking a little on the skinny side. If any Powell River reefers have some let me know and I'll come pick it up. The only thing I can get him to eat is Romaine lettuce and though he eats lots of it he is losing weight.

marie 10-10-2010 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 555037)
WANTED: Hair algae. (You don't hear that very often).
TORO, my LM Blenny is looking a little on the skinny side. If any Powell River reefers have some let me know and I'll come pick it up. The only thing I can get him to eat is Romaine lettuce and though he eats lots of it he is losing weight.


All my hair algae has been replaced by that red cotton candy algae :sad:

Could you not try to trick him by clipping Nori and lettuce together?

Mrfish55 10-10-2010 02:47 AM

Sorry Lance I'm fresh out, check with Bob I think he has a cube tank dedicated to growing algae. Mine was getting skinny when the corner tank cleaned up and he took to mysis no problems, try shooting some his way.

Mrfish55 10-10-2010 02:52 AM

Sorry been sniffing paint all day, mom's tank has lots of H.A. give me a ring tomorrow and I'll hook you up.

Lance 10-11-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrfish55 (Post 555057)
Sorry been sniffing paint all day, mom's tank has lots of H.A. give me a ring tomorrow and I'll hook you up.


I'll take you up on that Dave. I'll give you a call when I get a chance to pick it up.

Rbacchiega 10-11-2010 04:09 PM

this makes me rethink something I had given thought to doing a while ago. I wonder how hard (if at all) it would be to set up a small tank..even a 2.5 gallon lets say...for growing problem algae. We grow "good stuff" in our fuges...what about growing some HA specifically for this reason.

Mind you, I am tired, short on coffee and cigarettes and have a headache, so I could be talking nonsense.

Lance 10-11-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 555467)
this makes me rethink something I had given thought to doing a while ago. I wonder how hard (if at all) it would be to set up a small tank..even a 2.5 gallon lets say...for growing problem algae. We grow "good stuff" in our fuges...what about growing some HA specifically for this reason.

Mind you, I am tired, short on coffee and cigarettes and have a headache, so I could be talking nonsense.


This is what I'm thinking. I can grow out some hair algae in the sump of the frag tank and have readily available food for the LM Blenny. The things we do for our fish eh?

Rbacchiega 10-11-2010 04:14 PM

I'd consider a separate tank all together....strickly to avoid ANY chance of some HA getting anywhere it shouldn't...mind you...if you're going to feed it to the DT anyways,.....self, shut it..you are rambling

PoonTang 10-11-2010 05:09 PM

Lance. Won't he eat nori? Mine practically lives perched on-top of my feeder. Kind of funny watching the fat old bastard laying there asleep on top of his dinner.

Lance 10-11-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PoonTang (Post 555496)
Lance. Won't he eat nori? Mine practically lives perched on-top of my feeder. Kind of funny watching the fat old bastard laying there asleep on top of his dinner.

Nope. Won't touch it. I've placed small amounts of nori near all his favourite haunts. Turns his nose up at it. He will only eat hair and film algae of which the Kole gets most of.

Lance 10-19-2010 05:11 AM

Sitting on the couch tonight watching TV and I hear a loud crack from the big tank: exactly like glass cracking. Oh ****! I check out the tank but cannot find anything. No leaks, no cracks that I can see. Kept a close eye on it for the better part of an hour. I'm thinking, and hoping, it was the light fixture. The noise came about 15 minutes after the halides went out so maybe the metal cooling down caused the noise. Hasn't happened before though. Going to bed with my fingers crossed tonight. Will set my alarm for 3am and check things out.

Delphinus 10-19-2010 05:45 AM

Oh dear God. Good luck. Hope it was nothing!

lastlight 10-19-2010 06:13 AM

+1!

My reflector sometimes does that after cooling a bit hopefully that's all it was!

SeaHorse_Fanatic 10-19-2010 06:31 AM

Having just recovered from that, I really hope your tank isn't making the noise & it's only the reflector. Good luck my friend.

Anthony

Mrfish55 10-19-2010 02:12 PM

Hopefully all is well, any recent additions? could have picked up a pistol shrimp hitch hiker, I remember having one and it souded exactly like cracking glass (unfortunately I have lived thru that also) The sound happend on a regular basis for about three years and suddenly stopped, guess the little bugger finally shot himself, good luck.

Parker 10-19-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 557627)
Sitting on the couch tonight watching TV and I hear a loud crack from the big tank: exactly like glass cracking.

Damn, sounds scary. Sometimes I wish mine would crack, then I wouldn't be so frustrated with it! :lol:


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