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Reefer Rob 11-09-2007 10:44 PM

Thanks for the response Matthias. I'll move the outlets as far apart as possible, just in case they come on too close together.

rob

Siiri 11-10-2007 12:17 AM

Hi guys

I'm still wondering which is the best way to connect a ATI Powermodule T5 light fittings that already have dimmable ballasts to the Profilux and make full use of their dimming functionality via the Profilux ?
Micheal already gave me the options but I don't know which is the best option in my case...

Thanks...

Siiri

Aqua-Digital 11-10-2007 01:44 AM

Hi

The cheapest option is to use the little interface that GHL make, this little box comes with the western lead you require to connect to the profilux, on the other side of the box are screw terminals. which feed the 1-10V interface. But the downside of this option is that it will not turn you lights completely off at 0V, this is caled 0V switching. To over come this you will need to have the lights on a timer that switch the power off at the same time as the ProfiLux dims the lights to the minmum setting.

But the best option is the EVG-AP card, this does all the above in one card, it has relays on it that sense the 0 Volt and then switches the power off, so with this card the 1-10V wires through it interfacing the ProfiLux with the ballasts but also acts as you 0V switching devise, eliminating the need for external timers

Siiri 11-10-2007 02:50 AM

Thanks for the very speedy reply...

As I'm after the best option it looks like the EVG-AP cards are the way to go. From my own internet searches I believe these cards each connect to 2 ballasts so, please correct me if I'm wrong, I'll need 2 EVG-AP's for a 8 x T5 unit as I believe each ballast runs 2 x T5's. So that I will then be able to run 4 separately dimmable circuits....
Woooo Hoooo....:biggrin:

Thanks Again

Siiri

PS- Will now have to find qualified electrician to help...

Matthias Gross 11-11-2007 11:45 AM

yes, that is correct.

Did you read the EVG-AP manual?
Can be found here:
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...G-AP2_V400.pdf

Siiri 11-11-2007 08:09 PM

Thanks for the confirmation Matthias...I had found an older version earlier of your manual but really appreciate the latest copy.:biggrin:

Thanks Again...

Siiri

reef 11-15-2007 07:35 PM

trying to connect a Tunze 6055 to the profilux

the nano can be controlled from 4-18w. when converting to volts is that 4-18v

when i try to set the volts from 4-18 in the profilux control it keeps changing the 18v to 10v. any reason why?

Matthias Gross 11-16-2007 06:31 AM

I think this is a misunderstanding.
These are 2 different things: output power of the pump (in Watts) and output voltage of the ProfiLux (in Volts).
Maximum output voltage of ProfiLux is 10V -> at this voltage the pump will have the maximum power (18W in your case).
As far as i know the Tunze pumps even have the maximum power at 8V control voltage.

reef 11-16-2007 08:42 PM

Thanks Matthias,

re the dosing pumps.
if i select 24 dosings a day will the pump dose every hour or do i have to put the times in.?

i want to dose cal/kh/mg every hour.

teejay 11-16-2007 11:59 PM

buttons dont work
 
I am having trouble with my Profilux plus II.It is brand new and none of the buttons on the controller seem to work!
I can connect to my computer with the R232 connection and program it that way but cannot program it with the buttons on the actual unit.Anyone else have this problem?
I am also finding it rediculously difficult to connect with WLAN.Must you be a computer programer to configure this device?Does anyone have legible step-by-step instructions on how to do this?
Apreciated,

reef 11-17-2007 02:01 AM

having problems connecting the dosing pumps.

i have to power bars that are daisy changed out of s1-4.

i have connected the dosing pump to the end of the last power bar.

also gone to the socket functions and programe digital power bar and dosing pump.

dosing pump numbers selected as 1-4 as i have a 4 dosing pump unit.

after all this the dosing pumps stay on. i cant turn them off.


any ideas?

any chance that we can copy and paste the screen shots so we can post post them on the forum.

reef 11-17-2007 02:12 AM

Quote:

am also finding it rediculously difficult to connect with WLAN
try this.

first get the SSID from your router, to do this you have to go into the router software. i get into mine by putting 10.1.1.1 on the internet explorer bar. wher you would normally put Http//:

go to wireless, you should find the SSID, also make sure that the security of the router says none or off. depends which router you have. i have a Dlink.

Then go to system in the profilux control software.
highlight the WLAN and then go to configuration.

IP setting should be obtain ip automatically

SSID should be teh same as your router.

select adhoc.

press save, if you go back it will show the default settings, dont worry about it.


got to general and select tcp/ip when connect the profilux.



hope that works,

Matthias Gross 11-17-2007 05:29 AM

Hello Teejay,

what do you mean with "cannot program it with the buttons on the actual unit"? Do the keys not work? Or don't you know how to operate the unit? If the keys don't work: Maybe while transportation the keyboard got a shock and a key is now clamped. If this would be the case: Open the housing (described in manual) and make sure all keys are free.

WLAN-step by step:
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...AN_new_eng.pdf

This doc does not mention the "automatic IP feature", that means from 3.05 on you need not any more to deal with IPs. I think reef explained in a few easy words exactly what has to be done.

1. Connect controller with RS232 to PC, start ProfiLuxControl
2. Connect over RS232
3. Go to system, select WLAN-card
4. Press "Configuration"
5. Now comes the configuration dialog. Enter the SSID of your home network. CHoose ad hoc if you connect from PC directly to ProfiLux, choose infrastructure if you want to have a connection via your router. Press save.
6. Go to "General", press disconnect.
7. Choose "TCP/IP" under connection. Press connect.

That's it!

If you would have wireless network security enabled (like WPA or WEP) then please refer to the doc i mentioned.

Matthias Gross 11-17-2007 05:33 AM

reef,

regarding dosing pump.

Your pumps have numbers 1,2,3,4, correct?
And your powerbar has some numbers above, for example 5-10?

If you use the manual override can you activate each dosing pump and socket as expected? (the pumps react when you activate a socket with number 1-4, the sockets react when you activate sockets 5-10 in ProfiLuxCOntrol)

reef 11-17-2007 05:52 AM

i just found this which helped
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...DosingPump.pdf

Quote:

Your pumps have numbers 1,2,3,4, correct?
And your powerbar has some numbers above, for example 5-10?
Do they have to be 1-4?
can i put them after the last power bar, so say 13-16?



if i put the dosing pumps on 1-4 then it i have to change all my existing sockets and timers.

Matthias Gross 11-17-2007 07:07 AM

"Do they have to be 1-4?" - No, you can assign any numbers for digital powerbars and dosing units you want.

"can i put them after the last power bar, so say 13-16?" - yes

Hint: With firmware 3.05 you can program powerbars and dosing units (startnumer or initial state) with ProfiLuxControl 3.0.5.0

reef 11-17-2007 10:10 AM

Thanks again Matthias,

Perfect, i got the dosing pumps going.


So when i select 24 dosings per day for pump one, will it dose every hour?

Matthias Gross 11-17-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reef (Post 281872)
Thanks again Matthias,

Perfect, i got the dosing pumps going.


So when i select 24 dosings per day for pump one, will it dose every hour?

Exactly!

teejay 11-17-2007 07:46 PM

Ssid?
 
Excuse my ignorance but what is an SSID and how do I find out what mine is?

Bulltrader 11-17-2007 08:01 PM

I have to admit, these things are great. I've had one for 5 months now and just love everything it can do and I haven't even started to use everything yet. It has so many features with the lighting, I love it!!

reef 11-17-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Excuse my ignorance but what is an SSID and how do I find out what mine is?
AS explained you have to get it from you ADSL router.
i access mine from the explorer bar by typing 10.1.1.1


what type of adsl router do you have.

reef 11-17-2007 09:01 PM

Matthias i have a duel conductivity/redox card. would be good if something was marked on the card to tell which is the conductivity or redox meter.

Tip for anyone with dual conductivity/redox sensor: the bottom sensor is the conductivity and the top is the redox.

teejay 11-17-2007 09:06 PM

Router
 
I have a Lynksys Wireless-G router and a D-link ADSL modem.

reef 11-17-2007 09:35 PM

Matthias,

re the flow rate of the pumps. do they adjust the speed as per dosing programme or do they just dose all at the same rate.

i set different flows for the pumps and it look like they all dose at the same speed.

reef 11-17-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

have a Lynksys Wireless-G router and a D-link ADSL modem
So i quess you will be using the Lynksys wireless router if you are going wireless.
You have to find out the ssid by using the lynksys software or maybe putting 10.1.1.1 on the explorer bar.

reef 11-17-2007 11:00 PM

Matthias everything is working fine , however when i restart the profilux it comes up with ERROR:1 on the profilux view.

Everything works ok after the start up.

Any ideas??

Matthias Gross 11-18-2007 08:22 AM

@reef:
The dosing pumps have a flow rate of approx. 60ml/min. Due to tolerances of the motor or the pump it is possible that a pump has a different flow rate. You can correct the parameter "flow-rate" if needed. This parameter influences the calculated "on-time", not the speed.
Please see manual chapter "dosing pumps".
Error1: while the first seconds of boot-up ProfiLux can't communicate with View - than Error 1 is displayed. After boot-up is completed View starts to work - no problem
combo-card: there is no place for a print on the rear plate. But with each card is a manual shipped. This manual describes which functions the BNC-plugs have.

@teejay:
You can find the SSID also on your PC under "properties" of your network-connection.

reef 11-18-2007 09:44 AM

Matthias i will check the dosing of the pumps as i am sure i put in the settings to dose 1ml, i did not put anything to dose yet but when i checked it was dosing far more than 1ml. it must have dosed for about 1 minute.

To confirm if i set the dosing rate at 1ml and dosing per day 24. it should dose 24ml a day. is that correct?


With the measurement data, will it be improved soon so we can copy and paste it. also the profilux control software, would good to be able to copy the screen shots.

Matthias Gross 11-18-2007 10:00 AM

not correct

you have to adjust the "rate/dosing".

The flow rate describes the used pump. Maybe something between 55 and 65ml.

In your case 1ml. If "dosings per day" = 24 you dose 24ml per day.

Please read the manual. There is everything i wrote in the last posts desribed.

reef 11-18-2007 10:14 AM

Ok i will check my settings,

Any chance of getting motors of the dosing pump to dose slower? i doubt anything needs to be dosed so fast. is it because the slower pumps cost much more??

Reefer Rob 11-20-2007 03:56 PM

I'm dosing sodium carbonate which tends to be hard on plastic an rubber parts. What's the life expectancy on the tubes in the dosing pumps? Are they available separately or do I have to replace the whole peristaltic pumps?

Thanks
Rob

Aqua-Digital 11-20-2007 03:59 PM

The tubes are of medical grade, as with everything GHL it is of the highest of quality, so you would get better life expectancy than most for sure.

As they are very long life, the unit is modular meaning you would replace single doser at fault

REgards
Michael

Matthias Gross 11-24-2007 10:49 AM

Here it is:

The newest firmware 3.06 (beta) can be downloaded here:
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...LuxII_V306.zip

ProfiLuxControl II 3.0.6.0 here:
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...olII_V3060.exe

Warning: These are beta-versions at the moment, it is not impossible that there may be bugs in the software.

Before updating you should save your settings and sensordata, these files can be downloaded to ProfiLux after the update!

What's new?

1. support for the new cards PLM-4L (4x 1-10V-interfaces) and PLM-pH-Redox (combo for pH and redox measurement)

2. Complete new programmed current control! Up to 4 pumps can be controlled (or more if you control some pumps simultaneously). New modes: surge, sequence, random in several variants.
Increase of pump power while thunderstorm; 2 pump groups can be operated independently; all pumps can be programmed individually; monitoring of the pump power in ProfiLuxControl,........
->just download and test it!

3. Some other small improvements

Have fun while testing the new features!

Your feedback is appreciated!

bj0075 11-28-2007 11:28 AM

Gday guys (and Ladies)

Im glad I found this forum Ive been trying to findout if the Profilux II Plus can actually control more then 8 T5 tubes and if so how (HELP) I havent bought one yet Im planning my new tanks lighting and in the end it will have about 16 t5s (NO MH's) and 3 skylights.

I have a feeling If I link more then one controller together I will be ok but nothing I can find actually proves this.

Thanks
From DOWN UNDER

Brian

reef 11-29-2007 05:11 AM

It can control more than 8 x t5s, The lighting software profilux control allows this.
I just about 10 lights so far on mine,

Matthias Gross 11-29-2007 07:02 AM

You can control up to 8 dimmable lights independently. Of course more than 8 lights can be controlled (dimmed) but then some of them have to be controlled simultanously (groups of lights).
For your example: Use 8x double-output ballasts -> then you can control 8x2 tubes.

bj0075 11-29-2007 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthias Gross (Post 284469)
You can control up to 8 dimmable lights independently. Of course more than 8 lights can be controlled (dimmed) but then some of them have to be controlled simultanously (groups of lights).
For your example: Use 8x double-output ballasts -> then you can control 8x2 tubes.

Thanks guys that is exactly what I was after. I was told that the double dimmable ballast is counted as 2.

Slick Fork 11-29-2007 06:24 PM

Hi there,

One of the High-Inrush outlets on the digital powerbar quit on me. Is there any way to try and troubleshoot/fix this myself? It was controlling a single 250 watt magnetic ballast.

The indicator light comes on and I can hear the switch "click" but there is no power to the outlet itself.

Matthias Gross 11-30-2007 06:57 AM

There are fuses in the powerbars with inrush current protection.
Maybe this fuse is blown - replace it with exactly this type.
For a test you can simply use a fuse from another socket. Please refer to the powerbar manual.

Slick Fork 12-02-2007 04:59 AM

Thanks for the reply Matthias,

Turns out it is the fuse. Any idea where I can get replacements?


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