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Aqua-Digital 10-09-2007 12:33 AM

If you contact GHL via www.ghl-kl.de they will put you in touch with your nearest stockist to your location and country.

Good luck in your search, and please come back here for as much technical help and support with your new GHL

Welcome the the forum and the GHL thread.

Jukka 10-11-2007 04:55 AM

Can two individual current modes be programmed for pumps?

For example
L1: short right angled for Tunze wavebox
L3: longer sinus divided for couple of streams.

Matthias Gross 10-11-2007 05:16 AM

Not yet in the current firmware version BUT we will have a new 2 + 2 independent pump mode in one of the next firmware versions!
Then it is possible to control a wavebox with high frequency and other current pumps with "slow waves"

Todd 10-13-2007 04:37 AM

Just got my profilux today, with a USB card. I am having trouble connecting, I have set the conncection to USB and the interface to the com port specified in the device manager, and then searched for the device address only to have it tell me 'No Device found!'. I have installed the drivers and the program. The device manager recognizes the controller, but the program will not connect. Any ideas?

Todd 10-13-2007 06:09 AM

Figured it out. Changed the USB card to another port. Not sure if the first port is no good, or it was just a bad connection. The Card came installed in the profilux.

Aqua-Digital 10-13-2007 01:32 PM

Hiya

The port is good, you just did it the long way round, what you needed to do was find what port that the devise was sitting on and then match that to the profiLux. Next to the connection tab there are three small dots, if you click on this that takes you into the devise manager. This is one of the most common questions we get so dont worry, all part of the ProfiLux learning curve and why i am here (and others) to help out.

The cards are installed so you dont have to fiddle around opening the box up as soon as you get it. Sort of a pre delivery set up service. You will also see the latest firmware has been uploaded also.

When i get 5 minutes I will list on here the most common newbie FAQ's which should help out, especially with the run up to Christmas.

Glad you got it nice and quick!
REgards
Michael

Moose 10-13-2007 06:44 PM

Can someone tell me the web site to download the new firmware and manuel in English please and thank you

Aqua-Digital 10-13-2007 06:47 PM

http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari.../download.html

Thats the direct link

Regards
Michael

Todd 10-13-2007 07:07 PM

Thanks for the tip Michael, got it figured out pretty quick. Is there a link explaining how to wire up the dimmable ballast?

Aqua-Digital 10-13-2007 07:12 PM

Hi

In the bag with the EVG card there is a full pin in and out explanation, you will also find in this thread, I think from Canreef member AMP with some good info on this.

As ever with any electrical wiring if you are unsure consult an electrician.

Without seeing your set up it would be very unwise of me to advise remotely. I am sure you understand.

If you still get stuck, call us on Monday and we can go through things better for you

REgards
Michael

Aqua-Digital 10-13-2007 07:14 PM

Here you go save scouting for it

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...=26797&page=58

Hope this helps, Thanks AMP!

Moose 10-14-2007 01:37 AM

I am trying to hook up two digital power bars and a analog one I also have the western socket expansion for L and S Every which way I have tried to hook them I can't get all three to work say S1throughS16 three power bars 16 outlets. I tried daisy chaining the two digitals but the second one uses the same numbers as the analogged one I'm all messed up now. OH MAN!:redface: Please can someone help me thanks

Matthias Gross 10-14-2007 10:17 AM

Hi Moose

the numbers of the analog power bars are ALWAYS determinded by the western socket where they are plugged in. The numbering of the analog bars CAN'T be changed. That means for analog powerbars:
- plugged in S1-S4: the sockets have numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4
- S5-S8: numbers 5, 6, 7 and 8
and so on

The numbering of digital powerbars can be changed. Default is 1...6.

This means for your setup:
- connect analog powerbar to S5-S8 -> these are sockets 5...8
- program the digital powerbar #1 to be numbered 9 ... 14
- program the digital powerbar #2 to be numbered 15 ... 20
(while programming: connect only the powerbar which should be programmed, otherwise both powerbars are programmed)

This is only an example configuration; any other numbering can be assigned if you want to. But then make sure that there are no socket numbers twice - then they would switched simultaneousl.y

niloc16 10-16-2007 11:26 PM

i'm setting it up right now like that but the controller only recognizes up to 19 sockets. i have analog in s5-s8 and numbered accordingly. then the first digital to 9 - 14 second 15 - 19 so i'm losing one outlet. any ideas

i'm also having the problem like moose. i have analog in s5-s58 outlet, 1st digital in s1-s4 i program the analog and 1st digital powerbars, then when i connect the communication cable to 2nd digital, the outlets are identical to 1st digital bar and i cannot control them different. help!

Matthias Gross 10-17-2007 05:43 AM

"i'm setting it up right now like that but the controller only recognizes up to 19 sockets" - i have no idea what you mean.

You can program the START NUMBERING for a digital powerbar. If you program "1" as a start number the powerbar will have sockets 1,2,3,4,5,6 (this is default).
If you program "2" as a start number -> sockets 2,3,4,5,6,7
and so on until 19
if you program "19" as a start number the powerbar will have sockets 19,20,21,22,23,24
Where do we loose here sockets?!?

"the outlets are identical to 1st digital bar and i cannot control them different."
-> you must program different start numbers for them. See manual "Digital powerbars"

niloc16 10-17-2007 07:37 AM

on the menu settings when i got select what socket number i am programming, it stops at 19. but my biggest problem is getting the 2nd powerbar to have seperate outlet numbers. how do i program the second bar to start at different socket number. initially with the first bar i programed it right, then connected the second bar daisy chained and it copies the 1st bar outlet settings. i know i sound confusing, but i hope you get what i am saying. i did go by the manual, it says to program the 1st bar first then connect the 2nd bar which i did but it doesnt say how to start the 2nd bar programming

Todd 10-17-2007 07:44 AM

I am having some trouble getting my dimmable ballast to turn off. It will Dim untill about 5% and then get brighter (about 30% level) and not turn off, even though the controller says it is at 0%.

I have the black on the ballast connected to the L on the ballast driver blank (In the power supply Ballast 1) , and the white on the ballast going to the N on the ballast driver blank (In the power supply ballast 2). For the Control Lines to Ballasts, I have the + connected to the violet on the ballast, and the - going to the grey on the ballast. In the software I have the 10v interface set to 1v min and 10v max.

Any suggestions?

niloc16 10-17-2007 11:14 PM

ok so i feel a little bit stupid but i'm posting this to help others in case they have the same issue. i was settting up the analog and 1st digital powerbar properly but where i was going wrong is once i programmed the 1st digital bar i was daisy chaining the 2nd to it to program the 2nd digital bar. what i figured out laying in bed at 2am was that once the 1st digital bar is programmed i disconnect it from the computer and then hook the 2nd bar into the computer to program it. once both are programmed then you daisy chain them together. hope that makes sense.

Todd 10-18-2007 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd (Post 276912)
I am having some trouble getting my dimmable ballast to turn off. It will Dim untill about 5% and then get brighter (about 30% level) and not turn off, even though the controller says it is at 0%.

I have the black on the ballast connected to the L on the ballast driver blank (In the power supply Ballast 1) , and the white on the ballast going to the N on the ballast driver blank (In the power supply ballast 2). For the Control Lines to Ballasts, I have the + connected to the violet on the ballast, and the - going to the grey on the ballast. In the software I have the 10v interface set to 1v min and 10v max.

Any suggestions?

Figured it out, I had the control lines backwards (although in the correct order which I had checked several times). So now the ballast will fire and dim correctly, but will shut off when it reached around 20% on the way to full power. I can get it to turn on by unplugging and replugging the Profilux controller, but unplugging and plugging in the ballast does nothing.

Matthias Gross 10-18-2007 04:53 AM

Guys,

regarding programming of digital powerbars:
Under "digital powerbars - important hints" can be read:
"When the initial state or the numbering shall be set, only one digital powerbar respectively dosing pump unit may be connected. If several devices would be connected during the programming, all would overtake the new programming!"

Matthias Gross 10-18-2007 04:57 AM

Todd,

it seems that the tubes are not operated correctly and the ballast shuts power off in order to protect the tube.
- Check the wiring between ballast and tube
- These wires must be short! usually max. 1 or 2m - should be printed on the ballast or in the datasheet of the ballast

niloc16 10-18-2007 05:08 AM

i wasnt disputing you matthias i was just saying i misunderstood it and wasnt paying attention. i thought i would post what i did wrong, even though i look stupid, so that if others had the same issue they could maybe learn from my mistake :wink:

Todd 10-18-2007 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthias Gross (Post 277066)
Todd,

it seems that the tubes are not operated correctly and the ballast shuts power off in order to protect the tube.
- Check the wiring between ballast and tube
- These wires must be short! usually max. 1 or 2m - should be printed on the ballast or in the datasheet of the ballast


They are over 2m right now. I will try shortening them. Now that you mention it I do remember reading something about this on either this thread or another thread. I shall let you know shortly!

Todd 10-18-2007 06:06 AM

I have shortened the wires, but now it will cut out at a lower % then before!

Todd 10-18-2007 07:07 AM

I tried it with only 1 bulb as the other has been acting a little funny, and it went from 0 to 100% and back down just fine. Could it be a problem with the bulb that is causing the problem?

Matthias Gross 10-18-2007 07:09 AM

Are you sure the wiring is correct?
If you want to you can post a photo of your installation, mabe i can discover a mistake.

Matthias Gross 10-18-2007 07:11 AM

niloc,

thanks for your post - i think this will help if someone has similar problems!

Todd 10-18-2007 07:20 AM

I will look over my wiring again tommorow, if I cannot find a problem with it I will post a photo, perhaps you can see what I am missing. I do have a feeling that there is a problem with one of my bulbs though, maybe I will try with a different one tommorow before I pull it apart to check the wiring.

Reefer Rob 10-18-2007 07:19 PM

Anyone else having problems with their non-digital power bar? The socket that my heaters were plugged into stuck on, and needed a tap to get the contacts to open.

I've now been informed via J&L (where I bought it) that Proline won't warranty it :confused: One of the reasons I went with Profilux was that even though the product was still in the development stage for the North American market the manufacturer seemed to backing it well.

Aqua-Digital 10-18-2007 07:30 PM

Speak to matthias, how long have you had the plug bar? The new ones are more robust.

Without getting involved in inter dealer policies, as far as I know we warranty all power bars as long as they are used in accordance with the manufacturers guidelines

Todd 10-19-2007 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd (Post 277116)
I will look over my wiring again tommorow, if I cannot find a problem with it I will post a photo, perhaps you can see what I am missing. I do have a feeling that there is a problem with one of my bulbs though, maybe I will try with a different one tommorow before I pull it apart to check the wiring.

Replaced the end caps that I was using. Everything seems to be working allright now. It seems that I had a bad jumper cable or something like that.

Now that my lights are working I can get some of the other features figured out!

Matthias Gross 10-19-2007 08:40 AM

Reefer Bob,

i think this is one of the first powerbars and may have the problem with the high currents at 120V. In this case contact Proline directly, i am sure they will help you. We will replace powerbars of the first generation which are making trouble.
Or is this a powerbar with the "inrush current limiters"? If yes - try to switch your heater with one of the protected sockets.

support@proline 10-19-2007 07:37 PM

Rob
As far as warranty ,all our dealers service their clients @ the store on the spot ,the faulty items are sent to us & they receive a credit ,unlike many other wholesalers they do not need to apply for an RMA# before giving you an answer.So the decision is theirs & we will support them to do so.
I believe they simply were not aware of the old bar situation .
appreciate it if you can email us a copy of your invoice & return the faulty bar back to the shop for a replacement
Regards
Shane
Proline Aquatics

Reefer Rob 10-19-2007 08:22 PM

Hmmm.... J&L is saying this was Jason's call.

The latest version of the digital power bar works fantastic, and what I've been trying to do since my bar stuck on is get my regular bar upgraded to the same standard.

I'm sure you can understand that my system is completely controlled by the Profilux, so sending in one of my power bars and waiting for a replacement would be difficult.

Since adding the Profilux dosing pump (works great by the way) I have freed up enough sockets so each heater is now plugged into it's own socket, so the problem has not yet repeated itself.

Matthias Gross 10-20-2007 02:56 PM

Hi All,

new firmware (beta!) & ProfiLuxControl is available.

- descriptions & comments can be assigned (e.g. to a socket or a 1-10V-interface)
- support for upgrade to Plus II eXtended
- Digital powerbars and dosing pump stations can be programmed with ProfiLuxControl
- new dialog for timer settings
- support for all new ProfiLux models

The firmware for ProfiLux is a beta-version at this moment. This means that there could be bugs (until now i couldn't find one).

ProfiLuxControl is a release version.

Here are the links:
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...olII_V3050.exe
http://www.ghl-kl.de/Produkte/Aquari...LuxII_V305.zip

Siiri 10-27-2007 04:55 AM

Hi

I'm new to the Profilux as they have just made it down to Australia. I was just wondering if it is possible to connect ATI Powermodule T5 light fittings that already have dimmable ballasts to the Profilux and make full use of their dimming functionality via the Profilux ? If so, what other hardware do I require and what work is required to hook it all up ?

Thanks...

Siiri

Aqua-Digital 10-27-2007 12:34 PM

Hi

I will find out for you no problems, if it is compatible, then you would only need the external interface card, for 240V (Aussie voltage) there are three types.

1. this is just an interface card and requires you to have the lights on a timer as it does not switch the 1-10V completely off at 0V

2. A very handy interface that plugs into any shuko style socket that incorporates the 0V switching as well as the 1-10V interface

3. the EVG card that does it all and also can control two ballasts at one time, this is a PCB module that will require safe mounting.

Either myself or matthias directly will give you an answer if your lighting is compatible

Coming from the Uk I just have to add :mrgreen: SHAME ABOUT THE RUGBY MATE - TWICE IN 4 YEARS!!!!!!:mrgreen:

Regards
Michael

Siiri 10-27-2007 01:34 PM

Hi Michael

Any info is greatly appreciated as my Profilux supplier is new to it himself. He is working hard to find out this type of info for me but when I came across this forum I was hoping you guys could help me a little faster.

Quote:

SHAME ABOUT THE RUGBY MATE - TWICE IN 4 YEARS!!!
Sorry...I'm of the fairer sex...not interested in Rugby...
but I know my husband isn't a great fan of one Jonny Wilkinson

Regards

Siiri

Reefer Rob 11-09-2007 03:38 AM

Question about the dosing pump setup.

The instructions say:

"If more than one dosing pump is used Profilux tries to avoid to avoid that the pumps a activated in parallel"

If I dose sodium carbonate 10 times a day and calcium chloride 5 time a day, will the dosing times be spaced as far apart as possible, or could they happen one after the other, with no interval in between?

Rob

Matthias Gross 11-09-2007 08:38 AM

Hi,

ProfiLux avoids to dose at the same time but it can't be guaranteed that the intervals between all dosing activities are exactly the same.
But i don't think that this is a major issue.


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