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lobsterboy 01-26-2010 07:15 AM

awesome input guys, that saved me an overflow,

lobsterboy 01-27-2010 07:33 AM

well, i am on the ro water as of tonight, i just made up a batch of water.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3095-1.jpg

its not done yet, as you can see.

Big thanks to Kevin at Red Coral for the RODI unit, I was on a break from work and he got everything together for me, even though he was busy, he replaced the filters on it, so all i had to do when i got home was hook it up to the tap. Customer service is really top notch.

I tested the tap water again, and it was 170. The water from the RO unit was 000

Sweet.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3093-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3094-1.jpg

Ephraim 01-27-2010 12:57 PM

congrats on going RO!

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 05:41 PM

With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

JDigital 01-27-2010 06:04 PM

Welcome to da Club! :mrgreen:

albert_dao 01-27-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 486235)
With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

I don't agree with this...

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 07:34 PM

Why not?

albert_dao 01-27-2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 486292)
Why not?

Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken :D

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 486330)
Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken :D

That's the issue here - it's not just reducing the supplementation of organic carbon or whatever other zeovit additives that is going to have the negative impact, but the sudden change in overall nutrient availability. You're going from a nutrient rich (tap water) to a nutrient poor (RO/DI) state before bacterial/skimmer/nutrient export processing. Like any balanced equation, if you take one term out (in this the extra nutrients in the water) you're going to have a deviation from equillibrium.

And, I'm quite active. I don't even own an arm chair.

FlamesFan 01-27-2010 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 486265)
I don't agree with this...

I agree with albert on this. Zeo's job is to "strip" the water as you guys are calling it. The zeo products then introduct their own nutrients to the coral via dosing. If anything John should see better results with a cleaner starting point. (Zero TDS)

shrimpchips 01-28-2010 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamesFan (Post 486407)
I agree with albert on this. Zeo's job is to "strip" the water as you guys are calling it. The zeo products then introduct their own nutrients to the coral via dosing. If anything John should see better results with a cleaner starting point. (Zero TDS)

Yes, and for that reason, Lobsterboy will probably have to tone back the Zeo. The zeo system removes nutrients from the water - including the very ones you add into the system. If he has a lot less nutrients from the water, the zeo is going to be removing a lot more of the nutrients that are deliberately introduced.

Hence you have two options, start adding a lot more zeo additives to replace those that are not being introduced any longer, or tone back a bit on the zeo as there is less nutrient load to be removed.

fooser 01-28-2010 12:06 AM

I also must agree with Albert. I have been researching on zeo a little for my new build and from what I know about zeo, it cleans out the water column and then gives the corals what they need through facilitation of other supplemental products. It takes what they don't need and gives back what they do need. Corals get enough nutrients from the zeo dosing that they no longer need to work as hard producing food during the day and use polyp extention to capture any other additional nutrients from the water column. Because they save so much energy through zeo nutrients, polyp extention increases noticeably.

Never the less, I am sure different tanks may have different results and effects from changing things up suddenly. I am sure John will know if his tank is affected adversely or not when he monitors his corals. He can always make slight adjustments if the needs arise.

Anyways... good purchase John! I will be looking into one of those in the next few months. Let me know if you see a noticeable difference in your tank with that RO unit. Can't wait til you come by again to pick up your pocci, and check out the new system! Post some pics when the changes pop up in your corals!

freezetyle 01-28-2010 12:21 AM

Tanks looking awesome Jon!

Adding onto the whole switching to RO water and being worried about the zeo. I highly doubt he would be changing all of his tanks water at once. so lets say going with a 5-10% water change it will take quite a while for the tank to actually be 100% ro water

lobsterboy 01-28-2010 06:10 AM

thanks everyone for there comments, I have used the ro water as top up water, for the past two nights. I have a water change next week, so i guess well seen them.

lobsterboy 02-01-2010 02:14 AM

i got my ATO finally setup after it collecting dust for a month, and its great, I cant believe I havent done this sooner.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3176.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3175-1.jpg

and a pic.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3213-1.jpg

BlueTang<3 02-01-2010 03:22 AM

your tank looks great quite the collection of zeo back there what do you all dose :biggrin:

Carmen 02-01-2010 03:58 AM

Great Combination of COLORS in that pic!:mrgreen:

FlamesFan 02-01-2010 06:18 AM

I wish I had the room for an ATO. I usually fil 1L in the morning and 1L in the evening.

lobsterboy 02-01-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 488067)
your tank looks great quite the collection of zeo back there what do you all dose :biggrin:

thanks, i am using the whole spread of zeo products, there are a few that i am not using, like coral snow, zeosym, strotium, zeolife.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carmen (Post 488079)
Great Combination of COLORS in that pic!:mrgreen:

thanks Carmen, its hard to take pics now, with the additon of the 22k tubes, so i have to use the white balance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamesFan (Post 488116)
I wish I had the room for an ATO. I usually fil 1L in the morning and 1L in the evening.

yeah, its getting tight under the stand now, i am going through about 5-6l a day of top up water, so its already made a big difference in manual topping up.

lobsterboy 03-05-2010 04:31 AM

Hey everyone, i had the chance to snap a few pics tonight.

In the second picture you can see that the chalice frag is almost tottally covered now.

thanks for looking

john

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster9.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster8.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster7.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster6.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster5.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/lobster4.jpg

bauder1986 03-05-2010 04:33 AM

Drool is every where haha. As always John i continue to entertain me with pictures of happy healthy coral.

ALBERTA REEF 03-10-2010 05:17 AM

Show me the 125gal ZEO tank porn.:lol: More pics!:biggrin:

lobsterboy 03-10-2010 05:27 AM

hahaha, i will be taking some more top downs later this week, its been a hectic work week.

ALBERTA REEF 03-10-2010 05:29 AM

Sweet tops downs.

bauder1986 03-19-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lobsterboy (Post 500219)
hahaha, i will be taking some more top downs later this week, its been a hectic work week.

:neutral: sooo work keeping you that busy eh? looks like ill have to come by in person to see the tank then if your too busy to take pictures haha:lol:

Dolf 03-25-2010 02:52 AM

It's been awhile since I have seen your tank... looks great from the pictures; but it must be getting a little crowded... When is the 300 Gal arriving?

lobsterboy 03-25-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBERTA REEF (Post 500221)
Sweet tops downs.

hey cory, i am really slow eh. I did take some shoots but didnt get them up loaded yet. :redface:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bauder1986 (Post 503412)
:neutral: sooo work keeping you that busy eh? looks like ill have to come by in person to see the tank then if your too busy to take pictures haha:lol:

yup, work is busy and by the looks of it, its only going to get busier.

anytime you guys want to come by, shoot me a pm and well try and set something up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolf (Post 504955)
It's been awhile since I have seen your tank... looks great from the pictures; but it must be getting a little crowded... When is the 300 Gal arriving?

Danny Boi, hows it going ? the 350g wont be here for abit, hahaha.

thanks and yeah its getting quite crowded, i did stop pruning for awhile only to be left with a few burnt colonies from things getting way way to close.

lobsterboy 03-26-2010 02:56 AM

hey everyone, i had some free time tonight and took a few pics of my obessions, STYLOS AND POCCIS.

snappys rainbow
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...00/stylo14.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo2.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo3.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo4.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo5.jpg

mikes
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo6.jpg

xtremes pinky
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo7.jpg

got this one from 24storm

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo8.jpg

and a few non stylos,

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r.../stylo10-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...00/stylo11.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...00/stylo12.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...00/stylo13.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...000/stylo9.jpg

Lance 03-26-2010 03:03 AM

Very nice! As always.

lobsterboy 03-26-2010 03:11 AM

thanks Lance,

I am starting to like the use of white balance for taking pictures more and more, as its giving hte true color of the coral, and leaves the blue tint behind.

ALBERTA REEF 03-26-2010 05:22 AM

Finely! Topless pic's. :lol:

lobsterboy 03-26-2010 05:44 AM

top downs are my fav

bauder1986 03-26-2010 08:44 AM

:biggrin:oh man, John those pics of the stylo make me soo excited about my stylo growing

lobsterboy 04-10-2010 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bauder1986 (Post 505310)
:biggrin:oh man, John those pics of the stylo make me soo excited about my stylo growing

my obession is spreading, hehehe.

lobsterboy 04-11-2010 12:02 AM

hey everyone, i had the day off today, which was awesome, Scott dropped off a wicked pocci colony to me, and then i met up with 24 storm and his new ride, a sick ace corvette, we hit up the local shops here, seen Kevin, Doug, and carmen and Brad and his wife at Red Coral, and picked up a few things for the teatro tank. (which will hopefully be updated today sometime) then oceans, big als, and golds.

I did have plans to do a major reno aquascape on my tank, but in the end, time was the major player, i just dont have that much right now, so this wil have to wait. A few colonies were traded off, and things got moved around a touch to try and increase flow, which I was successful in doing. all levels are where they should, as i was having a hard time with MG a few weeks ago.

also had the time to take some pics of my own tank as well as the teatro tank.

ok picture time.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3661-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3657-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3656-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3653-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3642.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3648-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3649.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3636.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3634.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3643.jpg

lobsterboy 04-23-2010 01:58 AM

so the obession for stylos contiunes, I just recieved my order from Oceanic Corals, 3 of them being Denis;s purpel stylo the other being a pink birdnest are my favs, and it was awesome as usual. Paul and the guys are excellent to work with.

Thanks to Titus and Canreef for the surprise I got when placing my order

pic time, i will be keeping these guys on the rack for now until they can get a bit of growth on them, the bird nest, i stuck it in with the other pink and orange.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3729.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...0/IMG_3730.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3731-1.jpg

BlueTang<3 04-23-2010 03:20 AM

looks awesome great work

lobsterboy 05-04-2010 06:17 AM

New Beginning ?
 
hey everyone,, so I might be upgrading my tank. A smoking deal came up and it might be too good to pass on.

The tank wouldnt be the same as I have right now, not even close.

I do know if this does happen, it will be lite by T5;s and fueled by Zeo :razz:

and stocked with a few of my current SPS, I will not be transferring all of them over to the maybe new system.

well thats it for now, I will keep you all posted.

Coleus 05-04-2010 06:51 AM

that is great.

ALBERTA REEF 05-04-2010 06:43 PM

Sweet. So instead of a 6 footer your are going to have a 10 footer along the whole wall.:lol: All kidding around if you need help moving things let me know.:biggrin:


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