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Nate 05-18-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 717564)
Why do you think a large enough refugium with lots of macro algae can't keep perameters in check?

this is my cheato ball a week after harvesting it

LOL this is not a battle of whos balls are bigger marko. YEs that cheato will assist with some degree of nutrient export. No I dont think you can run a tank without doing water changes on a fairly regular basis. Yes, I challenge you to prove me wrong. Yes, I assume you will be on here in a couple more months with another problem asking everyone " whats wrong with my..." and then arguing the fact that it has nothing to do with water changes.

Once again, I hope everything works out for you.

I could show you the piddly little ball of cheato in my 500 gallon, but thats exactly it, its a piddly little ball, as I do WATER CHANGES to maintain low levels of nitrates!

MarkoD 05-18-2012 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 717571)
LOL this is not a battle of whos balls are bigger marko. YEs that cheato will assist with some degree of nutrient export. No I dont think you can run a tank without doing water changes on a fairly regular basis. Yes, I challenge you to prove me wrong. Yes, I assume you will be on here in a couple more months with another problem asking everyone " whats wrong with my..." and then arguing the fact that it has nothing to do with water changes.

Once again, I hope everything works out for you.

I could show you the piddly little ball of cheato in my 500 gallon, but thats exactly it, its a piddly little ball, as I do WATER CHANGES to maintain low levels of nitrates!

oh like when you told me to do a water change to stop my cleaner wrasse from nipping at my clams?

im sure you'll be back in a couple of months, failing to read, skip to the last page, and recommend something generic like "do a water change"

if you're such a successful reef keeper, why dont you show us all your accomplishments and your 50 service customers tanks

Nate 05-18-2012 02:42 AM

When I told you to do water changes, I was:

A) trying to help

B) YOU DIDNT TELL US YOUR CLEANER WRASSE WAS NIPPING YOUR CLAMS!

Guys my clams wont open any ideas?




Then later in the thread... the cleaner wrasse keeps nipping them think thats it?

YAY no water changes necessary?

Dont worry marko when you have a crash I'll slip into the thread for advice bro.

MarkoD 05-18-2012 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate (Post 717577)
When I told you to do water changes, I was:

A) trying to help

B) YOU DIDNT TELL US YOUR CLEANER WRASSE WAS NIPPING YOUR CLAMS!

Guys my clams wont open any ideas?




Then later in the thread... the cleaner wrasse keeps nipping them think thats it?

YAY no water changes necessary?

Dont worry marko when you have a crash I'll slip into the thread for advice bro.

dont worry about me, i dont want your advice

my point was that not everything can be solved with a water change. which is why i come here to look for actual helpful advice.

any idiot can come in here and say "just do a water change, it fixes everything"

Nate 05-18-2012 03:14 AM

ouch
 
You got me...

"I'm not claiming divinity. I've never claimed purity of soul. I've never claimed to have the answers to life. I only put out songs and answer questions as honestly as I can... But I still believe in peace, love and understanding." - John Lennon


Good luck on your future endeavours, marko.

MarkoD 05-18-2012 03:16 AM

will water changes starve the aptasia in my tank?

daniella3d 05-18-2012 03:19 AM

Probably because that's the first thing everybody try and it does not work. When ever I get cyano, I get it where I have the most flow in my tank, and have absolutely zero where the flow is gentle.

The flow simply spread it better, that's all, and cyanobacteria just plain love flow, so it seem in my tank.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NU-2reef (Post 717013)
Did anyone try to increase flow to the areas where cyano is present? I know it's pretty basic but I don't recall anyone talking about flow. Some chemicals have also helped me but I recommend some caution if going that route.


Nate 05-18-2012 03:22 AM

nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 717586)
will water changes starve the aptasia in my tank?

Nope, they'll only feed into it with all the minor elements you are missing from not doing water changes.

You working on your post count here?

Aquattro 05-18-2012 04:12 AM

Has anyone suggested water changes? Sorry, haven't read the thread...

The Grizz 05-18-2012 04:12 AM

GOOD GOD!!! This is getting rediculas!!! You two guys should really just leave each other alown.

Nate, I have only done 1 water change in the last 6 months in my 165 so does that also mean my tank is doomed? I don't have alot of SPS but I do have a few. Everything in my tank is thriving so it's safe to say not every tank needs bi-weekly WC.

MarkoD, I also agree with danillas last post. It dose seem that when my cyano shows its ugly red face it is in a higher flow area. I had it really bad for a long time until I started to make changes to my system but not to battle the cyano. I added carbon, GFO, pellets, changed my MH / T5's to LED's & got a bigger better skimmer. Now I can't really say what if any of these helped battle the cyano but I do see it more frequent when my pellets get low, does that mean anything.....I have no idea.

To sum it up make a few changes that don't cost a lot of money. Try switching up you light cycle, break it up into 2 sections of the day for high light periods or shorten it. Syphon out what you can, don't blow it off the rock and hope to catch it all in the water column


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