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MarkoD 03-01-2012 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 688338)
oh, and freshwater is free, so no cost to try it. Take the time you don't use for water changes and dip the clams...
i will, just one question, whats the best way to raise the PH of ro/di water?

Aquattro 03-01-2012 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 688343)
i will, just one question, whats the best way to raise the PH of ro/di water?
Don't. Just match temp, drop them in for 5 or 10. They close up and contain themselves

Aquattro 03-01-2012 10:16 PM
and don't damage the foot.

Zoaelite 03-01-2012 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 688334)
pinched mantle on both?

im sorry but i dont believe in coincidences.

but im gonna research it some more

either way, cleaner wrasse is out. literally swam right into the trap 5 seconds after putting it in, didnt even have a chance to put food in it yet
No coincidence here, pinched mantle is though to be brought on by a protozoan similar to Perkinsus olseni .

Cleaner wrasses bites @ Clam----> Clam becomes stressed---> Immune system becomes compromised---> Protozoan now has the chance to grow----> Both clams get pinched mantle---> Marko does a fresh water dip---> Problem solved---> Marko is free to troll other posts on Canreef.

:razz:.

Aquattro 03-01-2012 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 688348)
No coincidence here, pinched mantle is though to be brought on by a protozoan similar to Perkinsus olseni .

Cleaner wrasses bites @ Clam----> Clam becomes stressed---> Immune system becomes compromised---> Protozoan now has the chance to grow----> Both clams get pinched mantle---> Marko does a fresh water dip---> Problem solved---> Marko is free to troll other posts on Canreef.

:razz:.
bingo

MarkoD 03-01-2012 10:26 PM
20 min after taking out the cleaner wrasse the clams have started to open up more.

should i give it a couple to see if they recover or should i just do the dip anyway, right now?

yesterday
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...9at43618PM.png

today
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...1at43022PM.png

couple weeks ago
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/s...9at45754PM.png

christyf5 03-01-2012 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 688348)
No coincidence here, pinched mantle is though to be brought on by a protozoan similar to Perkinsus olseni .
And since you don't do water changes, you've created quite a little breeding factory/protozoan soup. Just one or both may have been infected originally but once one got going, the second was surely to get infected.

Don't be fooled by the clam looking better after the first dip, you'll likely have to do several FW dips over the coming weeks.

MarkoD 03-01-2012 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by christyf5 (Post 688354)
And since you don't do water changes, you've created quite a little breeding factory/protozoan soup. Just one or both may have been infected originally but once one got going, the second was surely to get infected.

Don't be fooled by the clam looking better after the first dip, you'll likely have to do several FW dips over the coming weeks.
should i start now. or give it an hour to see how it responds further?

i also just dosed marine snow to see if it would stimulate them further

Aquattro 03-01-2012 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 688360)
i also just dosed marine snow to see if it would stimulate them further
huh?? That's not going to do anything. Dip them, it does no harm and does lots of good if we're right.

MarkoD 03-01-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 688364)
huh?? That's not going to do anything. Dip them, it does no harm and does lots of good if we're right.
doesnt do harm? i just read that it could stress the clam further if it doesnt have pinched mantle.

yes i've also read that in the wild clams can be exposed to rain at low tide for hours and they survive.

im just waiting for the temp of the freshwater to match, and ill try it out with one of them


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