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Chin_Lee 03-23-2010 11:20 PM

my friend didn't do a water change either and it cleared up within a day.

Borderjumper 03-23-2010 11:37 PM

jeeze the trama of waking up to a cloudy tank:mrgreen: I will remain calm

Zoaelite 03-24-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 504613)
jeeze the trama of waking up to a cloudy tank:mrgreen: I will remain calm

+1, scared the crap out of me this morning until I realized my reactor was clogged (and FULL of mulm). After a quick cleaning I'm pretty happy, I can't wait for them to fully establish!

Zoaelite 03-24-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OceanicCorals-Ian- (Post 504607)
No need for a water change, the skimmer will pull out the bacteria (mulm) which is harmless.

Out of curiosity is it harmless to humans? Should I be wearing gloves when I'm cleaning my slimmy mesh screen?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 03-24-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zoaElite (Post 504818)
Out of curiosity is it harmless to humans? Should I be wearing gloves when I'm cleaning my slimmy mesh screen?

Harmless! :mrgreen: What the heck is with all of this clogging? I have not experienced any such clogs on either the store system or home system...... :neutral:

Chin_Lee 03-24-2010 07:07 PM

the cloggings happens when the pellets stop tumbling for whatever reason.

Borderjumper 03-24-2010 07:09 PM

my tank is still just as cloudy today. In my case both tanks its been the hoses gradually building up gunk, until it impeads the flow enough the pellets dont move enough.

Delphinus 03-24-2010 07:13 PM

Is it cloudy like "milky" or is it particulate from the mulm? I don't think I've ever had any cloudiness, per se, from the pellets, just blizzard like conditions. Are you running carbon? Can you dose some coral snow maybe to polish up the water? I'm not sure what to think of the continued cloudiness. Unless you can tell it's still the reactor shedding mulm? What reactor and what pump combo are you using? (Sorry just asking these questions so I can get a feel for things .. maybe we can come up with some suggestions?)

OceanicCorals-Ian- 03-24-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borderjumper (Post 504837)
my tank is still just as cloudy today. In my case both tanks its been the hoses gradually building up gunk, until it impedes the flow enough the pellets don't move enough.


The cloudiness is harmless with one exception, dissolved oxygen can plummet if too much bacterial mass exists in suspension or if too much volume of pellets are used with too much flow. This is likely not the case with you but it can happen.

The very best setup for these pellets that I have seen is actually the Vertex Reactor for the simple reason that it has 1/2" inlet and outlet size, this all but eliminates hose clogging issues.

Anoxic conditions can be prevented by simply aiming the return of the reactor to the inlet of the skimmer, the aeration of the skimmer returns the oxygen levels within the water to normal levels.

Ian

O.C.

Lance 03-24-2010 07:40 PM

Ian is bang on. Since I've switched from the TLF reactor to the Vertex I've not had a clog.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 03-24-2010 08:06 PM


O.C. has started a new Sub Forum for everything related to Pellet De-nitrification, questions and answers can be posted in the thread and will be monitored daily.

Thanks!

O.C.
#1 Source for De-nitrification Pellets.


http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62637

stevek 03-27-2010 02:22 PM

New Filter
 
http://picasaweb.google.com/m/photo?...690321&start=0

Seamazter 03-27-2010 03:05 PM

Hey delp
Are those the same vodka pellets that they sell at ocean city that your using?
Made by "reef intrests"

stevek 03-27-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Seamazter (Post 505604)
Hey delp
Are those the same vodka pellets that they sell at ocean city that your using?
Made by "reef intrests"

Yes

Finley 04-26-2010 08:18 PM

Kien,

Can you post larger pics of your install so I can tell where your vertex draws from and returns to in your sump.

Thanks

kien 04-26-2010 08:37 PM

I snapped quite a few pics of my pellet rig here. Let me know if you want me to email you the full resolution pictures; pm me your email and I'll email them to you.

I think this is what you're looking for though?

http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1272313480

After the water drops into the sump and through a filter sock, the first thing that it runs into is the pellet reactor powered by a 500gph pump. The outlet of the reactor points at the inlet to my skimmer, then over a few baffles and into the return section of the sump.

balistidae 05-05-2010 12:46 AM

I have been battling hair algae in my 28g nano cube and have tried almost everything, now as a last resort I am interested in giving these new n/p pellets a go.
Seeing how there is no room for a reactor on the tank I am wondering if I could bag the pellets and just put them in the overflow chamber? I could maybe take the bag out every few days and give it a shake. Would there be enough movement for this to work? Any other ideas how to add them reactor-less?

Thanks all!

globaldesigns 05-05-2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by balistidae (Post 516447)
I have been battling hair algae in my 28g nano cube and have tried almost everything, now as a last resort I am interested in giving these new n/p pellets a go.
Seeing how there is no room for a reactor on the tank I am wondering if I could bag the pellets and just put them in the overflow chamber? I could maybe take the bag out every few days and give it a shake. Would there be enough movement for this to work? Any other ideas how to add them reactor-less?

Thanks all!

The pellets need to be tumbled vigorously, so no your idea will not work. If possible figure out how to run a fluidizer.

Cameron 05-05-2010 06:08 AM

Here is my reactor tumbling nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbuPRkYg-FA

George 05-05-2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron (Post 516566)
Here is my reactor tumbling nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbuPRkYg-FA

Nice movement in that TLF. What powerhead are you using? How many pellets in that reactor?

Dyspnea 07-15-2010 05:05 AM

So some people have been running the pellets for nearly 7 months, Is everyone still happy? Anyone seeing improved coral growth/colors?

I strongly considering jumping on the bandwagon, I thought of going zeo however the constant dosing, shaking, plus my work schedule, pellets semm a far better choice for myself.

Cameron 07-15-2010 08:15 AM

I have had a severe hair algae outbreak...not sure if its the pellets or not...but I never had it before.

I have notices my corals are much brighter...but my kenya tree has lost all its color.
No change in my clams.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-15-2010 09:26 AM

No cyano or algae break out after adding the NPX pellets to my system. Perhaps the dozen or so tangs in the tank have something to do with that:wink::biggrin:

Lance 07-15-2010 10:51 PM

I've been running the pellets since January and have been pleased with the outcome. I have an overstocked 225g mixed reef with large, fat fish and I was constantly battling nitrates. Since the pellets I've been able to cut water changes in half and the NO3 & PO4 levels stay low. I also had a serious bubble algae problem which is virtually gone now.
I can't say I've seen an improvement in coral colours, but growth has definitely improved.

DiverDude 07-15-2010 11:03 PM

I started pellets 2 months ago and like Cameron, I too have had a bad HA outbreak. I can't say for sure it was the pellets either but the timing is highly suspiscious !

lastlight 07-15-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron (Post 516566)
Here is my reactor tumbling nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbuPRkYg-FA

Wow those are massive compared to the npx beads! I'm getting the same tumble with an mj600 on a TLF using the newer (and smaller) beads.

burrows14 07-16-2010 01:00 AM

It seems that people with smaller thanks seem to have the algae problems.... I have run pellets since january and have not had any algae at all. I have noticed that I have had a Copepod explosion tho! they are everywhere! lol

Cameron 07-16-2010 04:17 AM

I'll take some pods.

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-16-2010 07:53 PM

My pods in the sump also love the pellets. Used to see a few, now see lots in comparison.

Coleus 07-16-2010 09:18 PM

Well i have run it for 7 months now, and did not see the result i was expecting until i unplug my UV sterilizer. So now i am very happy with it because it really keep my nitrate down with less water change and feed the fish more. (like 3 time more :-) )

Not sure about coral because my angels are picking all my corals left and right so ..... oh well, maybe i should them more until they can't move anymore to pick on my corals.

Also. the bigger reactor, the better result you get. I was running 2x small TLFs and did not get the same result as one big deltec.

I am running 1L of pellets on my 155 gallon tank

hairy_frogfish 08-06-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 504185)

The MR-1 isn't as nice of a tumbler as the Vertex because of the bottom plate design (have now seen both reactors in action so have a fair basis of comparison). The MR-1 has a circular/slotted style openings and it seems that this causes an uneven upward flow whereas the phosban reactors and vertex have drilled bottom plates. I think this does make a difference so I think I will be at some point switching to a Vertex instead.

Hello,
I indeed have some problem getting good tumbling with the MR1. Could you please post of photo of the "drilled bottom plates" of the other reactors so I can see if I can make a modification on the MR1?

Thanks

Cia

Renaud

Delphinus 08-07-2010 12:26 AM

Oh wow, I wrote that some time ago. :redface: Should have posted an update, but I did switch over to the .. I think it's called the UF20. It's the slightly taller version of the two reactors by Vertex that people seem to be using for pellets. With the same pump, but now using 1/2" lines instead of 3/8", the difference in tumbling is quite significant. I haven't had to touch that thing in a number of months and the pellets are still spinning away in there.

I'll see if there's something I can snap a photo of, or maybe someone else can do so as well ... but in the meantime, imagine an acrylic disk for the bottom plate, with a grid of holes about 1/8" diameter or so. If you've seen the bottom plate of a TLF Phosban150 reactor, it's more or less the same idea.

Delphinus 08-07-2010 12:27 AM

Where are my manners!

Welcome to Canreef!! / Bienvenue a Canreef !! :)

hairy_frogfish 08-07-2010 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 539911)
Where are my manners!

Welcome to Canreef!! / Bienvenue a Canreef !! :)

Thanks Delphinus :)

Twinn 08-07-2010 09:37 PM

Any one else with the smaller tanks who are running the pellets having issues with HA?

Canadian 08-08-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinn (Post 540119)
Any one else with the smaller tanks who are running the pellets having issues with HA?

Not me. I've been running them for over 6 months now on a 50 gallon SPS tank and have zero hair algae.

Cameron 08-10-2010 04:07 AM

I am...65 gal RSM and the HA is crazy

Borderjumper 08-10-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cameron (Post 540603)
I am...65 gal RSM and the HA is crazy

How's your skimmer working?

fkshiu 08-10-2010 04:42 AM

Running about 600ml of the smaller NP pellets in a 150 gallon system so about a month and a half. Using a TLF reactor hooked up off of a manifold powered by my Eheim 1260 return. Pellets churn like crazy and without the trusty Eheim breaking a sweat.

My nitrates were creeping up towards 30ppm after an all out SPS crash and there was nothing I could do to stop the rise. Nitrates now at 20ppm but won't budge any lower. I tossed out many corals that were on their way out which would have helped as well. Going to add a bit more pellets. Still cyano hanging around with a few tufts of HA. I've been adding Zeobak as directed and occasionally add Coral Snow as well.

Frozenocean 08-10-2010 04:02 PM

TLF 150 with which pump?
 
I picked up a TLF 150 with 300 ml of pellets from RIPTANK. (Thanks man)He was using hydor L20 pump... I noticed the pellets moving in somewhat of a solid form....about 2/3 the way up the reactor. I switched out to a Maxijet and now I notice more vigorous tumbling and about 7/8 up the reactor.

Any feedback on the proper pump setup for this system.

I'm running a 90G. He had been running the system for 2 months


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