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JDigital 03-30-2009 04:55 AM

Sounds like you had a better day with your tank than I did with mine.. :lol: Congrats on the Sailfin!! Can't wait to see the pics Justin... :mrgreen:

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-30-2009 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 405601)
Sounds like you had a better day with your tank than I did with mine.. :lol: Congrats on the Sailfin!! Can't wait to see the pics Justin... :mrgreen:

Oh no...what happened? :(

I will take some pics tomorrow for sure.

I will have to ask the original owner but I am pretty sure he is Zebrasoma desjardinii. He has a lot of spots.

JDigital 03-30-2009 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 405631)
Oh no...what happened? :(

I will take some pics tomorrow for sure.

I will have to ask the original owner but I am pretty sure he is Zebrasoma desjardinii. He has a lot of spots.

Oh just the first battle to rid my tank of some flatworms, well A LOT of them, plus did 4 separate 5G water changes throughout the day after a Chemi-clean treatment couple days ago, so that I could bring my Skimmer back online.. Was a long day of husbandry... :drinking:

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-30-2009 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 405639)
Oh just the first battle to rid my tank of some flatworms, well A LOT of them, plus did 4 separate 5G water changes throughout the day after a Chemi-clean treatment couple days ago, so that I could bring my Skimmer back online.. Was a long day of husbandry... :drinking:

Oh no...do I dare ask which kind of flat worms?

I have had some but never the bad kind. Mine were just the harmless brown ones that don't eat anything. All they can do is block light from corals if there are lots of them but I find they like shade only. And die off on their own since I don't think they find food in our tanks.

But I am assuming you have the bad kind :(

AEFW?

How did the chemi-clean work?

JDigital 03-30-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 405641)
Oh no...do I dare ask which kind of flat worms?

I have had some but never the bad kind. Mine were just the harmless brown ones that don't eat anything. All they can do is block light from corals if there are lots of them but I find they like shade only. And die off on their own since I don't think they find food in our tanks.

But I am assuming you have the bad kind :(

AEFW?

How did the chemi-clean work?

As far as I know (and Christys ID) they are just red commensal flatworms, which are harmless, but a total eye sore, and they are (less now) all over the place.. siphoned a alot today.. but there are lots I can't get the tube into.. so hoping my new mystery wrasse will start to munch on those ones..

AEFW?

Chemiclean didn't seem to do much, and I HATED having my skimmer off. It was a rush decision one night (that I regret doing because it caused more headaches than good these past 2 days) after reading a thread on RC and thinking to myself "I'm gonna try that right now!!!"... I think I will stick to Pohls Coral Snow for keeping cyano in check.. :wink:

I should probably be typing this in my own build thread, instead of jacking yours.. LOL!!

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-30-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 405643)
As far as I know (and Christys ID) they are just red commensal flatworms, which are harmless, but a total eye sore, and they are (less now) all over the place.. siphoned a alot today.. but there are lots I can't get the tube into.. so hoping my new mystery wrasse will start to munch on those ones..

AEFW?

Chemiclean didn't seem to do much, and I HATED having my skimmer off. It was a rush decision one night (that I regret doing because it caused more headaches than good these past 2 days) after reading a thread on RC and thinking to myself "I'm gonna try that right now!!!"... I think I will stick to Pohls Coral Snow for keeping cyano in check.. :wink:

I should probably be typing this in my own build thread, instead of jacking yours.. LOL!!

AEFW...Acro Eating Flat Worms, you would know if you had them (dying acros) and you can't really see them with the naked eye. Well its really hard. They are clear and take on the color of the coral they are eating.

The ones you have will go away with time on their own and are harmless. Yes an eyesore but not that bad.

Glad its just those ones.

spoot 03-30-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 405594)
Yeah I am happy it went so well. I was really worried. This is the one species of tang I have always wanted but never had the tank for one. I would have loved to have found a small one and watched it grow this big but its always always nice to be able to give a fish a bigger home.

I am really amazed at how big an 8" Sailfin looks. I would have easily guessed it was more like 10"-11". I think its because they are so 'tall'.

Give me a call if your in my area and you can come by and see him and the tank.


Definitely, but most likely not for a few weeks, as it's finals season, and I have a lot of catching up to do.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-30-2009 05:11 PM

A few pictures of the new Sailfin at breakfast this morning. Obviously taken with a flash and no tank lights.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbbbbbb119.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbbbb118-1.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbbbbbb121.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbbbbbb124.jpg

You can kind of see how thick he is in this one!

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbbbbbb125.jpg

Delphinus 03-30-2009 05:23 PM

Desjardini - because the yellow lines in the dorsal fin are arcs instead of straight stripes. Not that it matters, both desjardini and veliferum are very pretty tangs IMHO.

Flatworms - look into a canary wrasse (sometimes called a yellow coris wrasse but it is not a coris relative at all). I don't think Chemiclean will do a thing for flatworms. That's more a cyano treatment.. But look into a canary wrasse, they do a bang up job of eating flatworms. Mine took about 2-3 weeks to completely eradicate the flatworms in my 115g. And they are a very pretty fish. Another alternative is the exquisitedly coloured close relative, the radiant wrasse.

And AEFW, yeah, you'd know if it was. Inside the tank, you'll only see the damage on your SPS. You'll only see the flatworms if they fall off your acros when you dip them..

Sorry for the hijack GSP just figured I'd do a quick brain dump before I disappear back to work..

Lance 03-30-2009 05:40 PM

Nice score Justin. He's a beauty; and I'm sure he'll fit in with no problems. My Sailfin is a model citizen and one of my favourites. Have fun with him.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-30-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 405759)
Nice score Justin. He's a beauty; and I'm sure he'll fit in with no problems. My Sailfin is a model citizen and one of my favourites. Have fun with him.

Yeah he is a beauty! Nice to get a new fish that is so healthy and you know is eating, ect.

I feel really bad for the original owner though since I know it was one of his favorite fish :(

No problems so far...I worried about the Yellow but he actually seems to 'like' the Sailfin. Follows him around a lot.

Skimmerking 03-30-2009 08:40 PM

hey man, i have the same tang love him they get very fat indeed..... hows the tusk fish doing, what do they eat other then shrimp

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 405843)
hey man, i have the same tang love him they get very fat indeed..... hows the tusk fish doing, what do they eat other then shrimp

Well the tusk eats all the food I feed the tank...Nori, prawns, mussels, squid, clams, pellets...pretty much everything.

He also eats shrimp, crabs, hermit crabs sometimes and anything he thinks he can get out of the shell. But I find he doesn't care about inverts as long as he is fed well. I only see him eat inverts on days that I don't feed quite as much.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 01:07 AM

Some daytime pictures of the Sailfin and 'friends'.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/339.jpg

The four tangs and the Rabbit thats thinks hes a tang...

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/353.jpg

You might notice in many of the pics I have posted of the Sailfin, the Yellow is right behind him. The Yellow (Bubbles) has followed the Sailfin all day. I thought it was coincidence at first but I don't think so. Its kind of like he look up to him or something :D


I need some ideas for small fish. I have way too many big guys and not so many little guys. Really need some more variety. I have been considering an Emperor Angel but maybe instead a bunch of small fish would be nice.

JDigital 03-31-2009 03:23 AM

Why not add a few wrasses, like a Mystery, Hooded Fairy, Sixline... Maybe some pygmy angels? Flame and Eibli, Lemon Peel..

Most of those are active swimmers, unlike the watchmen gobies and such..

That sailfin is gorgeous... I was drooling over the big one at Red Coral tonight..

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 406032)
Why not add a few wrasses, like a Mystery, Hooded Flashers, Sixline... Maybe some pygmy angels? Flame and Eibli, Lemon Peel..

Most of those are active swimmers, unlike the watchmen gobies and such..

That sailfin is gorgeous... I was drooling over the big one at Red Coral tonight..

Yeah I like your ideas. Maybe a few small angels would be nice (and easier) than a big one.

I definitely want a Wrasse but not until I sort out a screen for the top. I have been lazy with that.

A few more of the Sailfin :)

Close up

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/392.jpg

Getting his teeth cleaned

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/388.jpg

Size compared to my Naso

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/390.jpg

spoot 03-31-2009 04:09 AM

He is georgous Justin! Looks really healthy too. I really envy your reef lighting, it is so much easier to take pictures. Maybe I'll bring over my camera next time too.

I think the smaller angels are said to nip corals too, but there are some nice ones. We have a Eibli in our 90g, and he is quite a character.

JDigital 03-31-2009 04:31 AM

Amazing pics Justins!! Really Really REALLY nice sailfin... the orange banding and speckles is so sweet! :mrgreen: Definitely stoked for you.. I'd be photographing it just as much I think.. :thumb:

BTW, I meant hooded fairy, not hooded flasher... LOL

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by spoot (Post 406057)
He is georgous Justin! Looks really healthy too. I really envy your reef lighting, it is so much easier to take pictures. Maybe I'll bring over my camera next time too.

I think the smaller angels are said to nip corals too, but there are some nice ones. We have a Eibli in our 90g, and he is quite a character.

Yes I bet your camera is better than mine ;)

Yes the smaller angels do nip corals sometimes I think. I will have to do some research first. Not going to be adding more fish for a bit I don't think anyways. No rush.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 406065)
Amazing pics Justins!! Really Really REALLY nice sailfin... the orange banding and speckles is so sweet! :mrgreen: Definitely stoked for you.. I'd be photographing it just as much I think.. :thumb:

BTW, I meant hooded fairy, not hooded flasher... LOL

LOL...I figured that was the fish you meant. And they are very nice. I just worry about jumping at the moment.

He is very cool to photograph because he actually stays very still and watches the camera for the most part. He is very friendly...one of the nice things about getting a fish from someones tank.

Drock169 03-31-2009 05:23 AM

I'm glad the sailfin is doing well in your tank. He looks so small in there compared to my tank. I wonder if he recognizes the hippo.
I've pretty much cut my feeding in half now that hes gone.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Drock169 (Post 406085)
I'm glad the sailfin is doing well in your tank. He looks so small in there compared to my tank. I wonder if he recognizes the hippo.
I've pretty much cut my feeding in half now that hes gone.

I think the tank size is good for him...Thanks again Derek! I seem to be taking care of all the fish that outgrow your tank ;)

You have the healthiest fish I have ever seen in home aquariums...Im serious. All your fish are thick like I have seen them in the ocean and the color is amazing!

Hes not eating so much yet but hes picking at nori. He seems to be really shy. He won't get in the mix with the other tangs. He will start to eat but if they come to eat too, he backs off and watches from a distance.

He nibbled at some prawns I chopped up tonight but again, didn't eat too much. Hopefully he just needs a few days to settle in.

Drock169 03-31-2009 07:05 AM

I was feeding him nori everyday and PE mysis mixed with garlic, selcon, the 2 zeo supplements (until the tropic marin arrives), and spirulina flakes to bind everything into larger clumps for him to eat.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Drock169 (Post 406118)
I was feeding him nori everyday and PE mysis mixed with garlic, selcon, the 2 zeo supplements (until the tropic marin arrives), and spirulina flakes to bind everything into larger clumps for him to eat.

OK, they get Nori basically all day to graze on. I just keep adding more each time they finish it.

I will try some PE mysis tomorrow. I already use the Tropic Marin vitamins, so he should be used to them.

spoot 03-31-2009 08:19 AM

Have you tried laver? It's a seaweed that does not get chopped up, and is just dried in leaf like ribbons. Only takes a couple of minutes to rehydrate, then it looks like living seaweed blowing in the tank.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spoot (Post 406126)
Have you tried laver? It's a seaweed that does not get chopped up, and is just dried in leaf like ribbons. Only takes a couple of minutes to rehydrate, then it looks like living seaweed blowing in the tank.

No I have never heard of it. I just buy Nori from the Asian market near my place. My tangs love the kind I buy. The Sailfin did eat it too but I think he is just getting used to the new tank.

Where can I get the stuff your talking about? I should try that.

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 04:37 PM

I love photographing our little cat...he is such a playful, crazy little guy and always into something...

(Sorry guys, no new fish pictures)

Really liked this one :D He loves to kind of 'perch' himself up on this side table.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/021.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/026.jpg

Fell asleep in a strange position...

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/212.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/221.jpg

He found the groceries ;)

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/229.jpg


And just so I don't leave him out, the big cat...

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/244.jpg

wisesam 03-31-2009 06:25 PM

Your cat is not 'LITTLE'.
He's bigger than my dog.:lol:

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wisesam (Post 406250)
Your cat is not 'LITTLE'.
He's bigger than my dog.:lol:

Yes...but he is little...and your dog is tiny!

JDigital 03-31-2009 10:23 PM

That couch in the first pic looks comfy! :mrgreen: oh ya.... Nice cats too

GreenSpottedPuffer 03-31-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 406359)
That couch in the first pic looks comfy! :mrgreen: oh ya.... Nice cats too



Ah yes, the George Nelson Marshmallow Sofa...circa 1956. But this one is a replica. I looked at the real thing but $4K-5K was out of my price range.

We actually have multicolored cushions for that thing--basically each circle can be replaced with a different color. In our last place, we had the whole thing black, white and red...kind of randomly 'patterned'.

It is actually a very comfy sofa, my fiance lays on it all the time infront of the fire. Although she is quite small and most people can't really lay on it properly.

wisesam 03-31-2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 406359)
That couch in the first pic looks comfy! :mrgreen: oh ya.... Nice cats too

The couch looks like a drum set.

Rbacchiega 04-01-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 406216)
Fell asleep in a strange position...

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psmith/212.jpg

I'm pretty sure I've passed out like that once or twice...I'd be checking the booze in the bar....

On a side note, I'm still in the air about zeo (I wish I could make up my mind) Eventually the 90 will be mainly SPS, but I do have some LPS in there (Acans, Frogspawn, Chalice etc) Zeo shouldn't effect them negatively would it???? What about the zoas???

MAYBE I need to get my rear end in gear and get the 50 gallon started....

GreenSpottedPuffer 04-01-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 406673)
I'm pretty sure I've passed out like that once or twice...I'd be checking the booze in the bar....

On a side note, I'm still in the air about zeo (I wish I could make up my mind) Eventually the 90 will be mainly SPS, but I do have some LPS in there (Acans, Frogspawn, Chalice etc) Zeo shouldn't effect them negatively would it???? What about the zoas???

MAYBE I need to get my rear end in gear and get the 50 gallon started....

I know I have passed out like that a few times...just wish I could say it were at home :(

Anyways...

ZEO...Hasn't had anything but a positive effect. Every single type of coral I keep (sps, LPS, softies) are looking better than before ZEO.

I was worried about the softies just dying off but so far, they look more colorful and happy than before.

I say go for it to anyone who is on the fence. The results in most peoples tanks are quite clear.

Rbacchiega 04-01-2009 06:30 PM

.....thanks for helping me spend 350+.... LOL

GreenSpottedPuffer 04-01-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 406730)
.....thanks for helping me spend 350+.... LOL

LOL...don't complain :razz:

Why not spend the money if its going to make your tank looks so much better? You have already spent so much (we all have), so may as well make sure your corals stand out.

I don't see ZEO as expensive at all.

Think of it this way, people don't hesitate to spend $350 plus on a skimmer. Or generally a lot more. But then they get all funny about $350 for ZEO (not that you are). I can tell you that for my system, they are both just as important as each other. Take one away, and my tank would suck.

Besides, ZEO replaces all kind of equipment...my sump has a skimmer, ZEO reactor and return pump in it, thats it...oh and a bag of carbon :D

Rbacchiega 04-01-2009 09:05 PM

Not complaining...but if I'm ever out that way the least you could do is share a beer with me LOL

I'll be ordering the 1.5L professional kit from J&L (unless I can find one local for comparable)...

GreenSpottedPuffer 04-01-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 406793)
Not complaining...but if I'm ever out that way the least you could do is share a beer with me LOL

I'll be ordering the 1.5L professional kit from J&L (unless I can find one local for comparable)...

Oh no I know your not. I was just generalizing :D

And of course, if your ever out this way, give me a shout and we'll have some beers for sure! Its a great city to visit in the summer ;)

I bet you have been here right?

Rbacchiega 04-01-2009 10:48 PM

indeed. I love Vancouver. Played in a few ball tournaments back in the day when I still had a shoulder left. And we've been looking at expanding the company (billiard tables) out there....

GreenSpottedPuffer 04-02-2009 07:09 AM

*sigh*

Little set back...

Tank didn't look great I noticed on Sunday but didn't really think much of it. Monday and Tuesday was so busy and wasn't paying much attention to the tank besides the Sailfin ;)

Then I got home tonight and it didn't look good. Not terrible but coloration and polyp extension was poor.

Tested and found ALK was 4!

Wow it dropped fast. I have noticed that a few of my corals have been growing so fast lately that I can literally see the different every day or two. Especially my big red cap....its really 'branching out'.

I guess I need to test ALK a few times a week instead of just once a week or two.

One acro is receding a little from the bottom :(

Hopefully I can get the ALK back up to 7 over the next few days and things will get better.


EDIT: Added some Two part and raised it to 4.5 for tonight. In the morning, I will go for 5 and then 5.5 at night. Keep going until 7-8....


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