Let's try your tank first. ;)

just curious to see how many of you will be staying/ switching brands with the new aquaforest pricing?

I myself will probably be staying, although given the price point I will also probably try another brands in that price range (salinity & H2Ocean) to see if there is any difference.

I only bought the AF reef salt because it was cheaper than what regular IO salt usually goes for around here. I haven't noticed any difference in my tank than from using any other salt I've used over the years so depending on what I can find on sale locally compared to what I can get AF for I may use something else. I'm not interested in the probiotic salt for the price since there's lots of cheaper options to add various strains of probiotic bacteria to the tank.

Aquaforest entered the market here way too cheap, there's no way they should be priced in the bottom half of salts, let alone one of the very cheapest (obviously not including probiotic). I do like the salt but one of the reasons I use it is simply convenience of it being available on Amazon. I have already switched away from some of their products, for example Rowa is far better than Phosphate Minus... I guess this is a long winded way of saying I will switch to other products without much concern if I have to.

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Does anyone know if the huge shipment of AF product has arrived in Canada yet? Been told by a few LFS to expect it in Nov.

I was able to get the coral additives, Np Pro and Pro Bio S at my lfs this past weekend. My understanding is that the small items can be sent by air, while the salt (possibly other larger items) have to be sent by sea. My lfs expects the salt in the next week or two. So it seems the North American or Canadian distributor has some stuff in stock now.

From what I understand alot of it is in Canada now en route to the LFS'.

Some of the additives arrives at Bayside Corals 3 or 4 weeks ago. Salt they're hoping to see this week along with more additives.

It looks like Aquarium Depot in Canada has everything but the probiotic salt in stock. So some LFS are getting the items.

It's not in stock. Add it to your cart, and it says it's backordered. They don't have it yet.

I put a bunch of different AF items in my cart and none of them say that they are back ordered. Everything I looked at says "In stock".

Weird, none of the items I tried worked. :lol:

I didn't look at everything, just the stuff I may need to replenish in the next while. We're probably just looking at different items. I hope a local vendor starts carrying some of this stuff. I've been having pretty good success so far and have had to start feeding more just to get some algae to grow for my rock as my Coral Beauty seems to reject anything else I feed it.

Just picked up some pro bio f and pro bio s , Im trying to reduce phosphates. Any other recommendations of any other products to try from aqua forest ? Keeping lps/softies/nems/a few sticks . Really only finding it hard to get my phosphates down , have been blowing my rocks a couple times a day and doing a 5 gallon water change (h2ocean) every other day to remove debris . Just never ends I do feed alot because of my pipes the tank is 60g . So figured I would give these products a go.

You need np- pro with those 2, as the 2 you got are bacteria and the np/pro is the liquid polymer to promote bacteria to grow. You don't really need the pro bio f.


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Pro Bio F is for seeding a new system
Pro Bio S is for daily dosing an established system.
NP Pro is the Carbon for feeding the bacteria.

What are your Nitrates and Phosphates reading now? Remember, bacteria need Nitrates, Phosphates and Carbon to grow. If your nitrates bottom out the bacteria won't consume Phosphates until there's more nitrates.

great so the pro bio f is no good then I should have checked on here first . Will go back for the np pro tomorrow. My nitrates are close to none at all I might try a new test kit and I cant find my phosphate kit so I will replace that too. Im just assuming its phosphates due to algae growth . It actually started from a tank teardown I helped a guy out stored a couple corals in my tank for a few days and now I cant get rid of the stuff . I will report back tomorrow with test results

Where are you getting the Aquaforest products in Calgary?

wais has a bunch of stuff just no salt yet

Thanks!

The remaining products should be in stores next week including the salt.

Also, correction...

BioS is for seeding new tanks - nitrifying bacteria.

ProBioS is probiotic bacteria (hence the "pro").

ProBioF I don't know much about...my understanding is that it is more types of probiotic bacteria in a powder form. Some probiotic bacteria are more stable as powder, some as liquid. I don't really see people using this one often.

The pro bio f is for small tanks
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Aquaforest said this on RC too:

So essentially you can use one or the other, or both. Maybe the ProBioF is a good option for sumpless tanks? I wonder if it is ok for skimmerless too?

Bio f is the carbon source and bacteria it's like a all in one for small tanks but you would always need a skimmer for this method.

So I should use just the Probio S and the np pro and thats it for phosphate reduction ? And dont use the bro bio f ? Or should I use all 3 ? My tank is 60g is that considered a small tank ?

FWIW, I used ProBioF for about four months, I didn't see much change in nitrate. I switched to NoPox and it started working within days. I still have like 80% of PBF if someone wants it at next meet or whatever.

Ahhhh, i got them mixed up.

I just started using np pro and pro bio s. Too soon to tell.

ok got a new test kit
P04 0.50
nitrates 10ppm

So now that I have the numbers what is the recommended route ? Already doing 5g water change every 1-2 days just to remove detritus and stuff I blow off the rocks .
tank specs :
lighting 2 x 39w t5 bulbs (blue + and a actinic +) x 3 kessil a360we
36x24x14h bare bottom
mag 12 pump
2x jebao ppw-4 (set on first wave setting full power and speed)
vertex omega 150
live rocks and chateo in the sump
no carbon or gfo ,I dose the big 3 and potassium occasionally .
Got a big bioload IMO for this size tank but all small fish
2 clowns
1 clown goby
1 ruby red scooter
1 banded pipe
1 dragon face pipe
1 target Mandarin
1 sunburst anthias
2 yellow boxfish
1 yashi goby
clean up crew :
2 red scarlets
5 halloween hermits
1 bumblebee shrimp
4 bumblebee snails
10,000,000 micro brittle stars
I feed rotifers and add pods to the tank for the pod eaters as well as PE Calanus Frozen / cyclops / mysis / ns pellets / ns flake / reef frenzy nano / and reef frenzy fish eggs So I feed heavy but since Im removing alot of detritus from small frequent water changes I figure my feeding is fine , but the detritus does not end no matter how much I remove . Most of my flow is at the top of the aquarium so I have stuff settling at the bottom . Maybe I could aim my returns at the ground but I like leaving the bottom lower flow for my harlequin shrimp to get around easier . I dont want to use any reactors or add anymore equipment so Im hoping this aquaforest method can help me . So I picked up the :
Pro-bios S
Pro-bios F
NP Pro
Should I use all 3 in combination ? Or should I just stick to running the : Pro-bios S and the NP Pro ?
All my corals are doing great as well as my fish its just the algae on the rocks thats annoying me and also getting little bubbles on my rocks and in the algae .

alk 7
calcium 430
mag 1110
all test kits are nyos reefer kits

Anyone know who carries Aquaforest Reef Salt? I found one on Amazon from a 3rd party seller asking exuberant amounts... They just out of stock?

I'm going skimmer less and nearing the end of my Probiotic bucket. Looking to keep parameters more in line with NSW an like AF, but want tot switch to the regular "Reef" version now.

edit: Hmmm strange. I found it looking under the Aquaforest brand, but not via Searching "Aquaforest Reef Salt". I bought a 5kg bucket for now, but would like a 10kg if anyone knows other sources, or at least a backup. :)

Once Amazon sells stock, they will no longer be carrying Aquaforest products. All the LFS with orders in should be receiving their stock this week of salt and the rest of the product line that they ordered. Maybe someone can chime in here with which LFS in Edmonton are carrying the Aquaforest line??

Bummer about Amazon not carrying it any longer. Don't get me wrong, I like to support my LFS, but also like to make use of my Prime membership and delivery to my workplace :wink:

If anyone knows of any Edmonton LFS's that will be stocking this, that would be very helpful!

Does aquaforest use horse and carriage to deliver there salt to stores In canada ? It's been about 6 week now gotta be soon

Bayside corals just recieved theirs today.

They were waiting on the overseas shipment thats why it took soooo long. It's a brand spanking new supplier now.

Nice hope we get ours in bc soon thanks for update

I asked Marine Aquaria to carry aquaforest line, just because they are closest to me.

I'm thinking of using AF products for my new build. Any updates? Everyone still happy with it?

Well I have been using the Pro Bio S an NP pro , I have had 2 outbreaks where white film covers a coral and ends up killing it . After the first time it happened I cut back the recommended dose by half and same thing happened killed my dendro colony . Im assuming its a bacterial infection and those 2 products are the only thing I changed along the way . So Im going to quit using it all together and just go back to using no products . Not %100 it was directly due to using the pro bio s and np pro but its not worth the risk anymore. I guess a few people have had similar issues

Been using Aquaforest for 13 months now. No complaints. Use it on client tanks too. It's not a magic bullet. It's a good product line at a nice price point.

Aquarium illusions in Edmonton carries aquaforest products

Good to hear. I want to find a product line that takes some of the guesswork away with additives and the like. I also like their salt is closer to NSW.