As I have said so many times before if you do nothing else and dont use part A and Part B of TM system, it is extremely important to use part C so the free sodium chloride left behind from the coral consumption of the calcium and carbonate has something to balance to.

without part C the left over sodium and chloride will unbalance your system, the trace elements also in the system are an added benefit.

That's assuming you don't "balance" by mixing your water for a change at a slightly lower salinity to compensate for the small amount of added Na and Cl from dosing.

Perfect if you do water changes daily then!

All this work Ron just to try and disprove the need for the system? sounds like a hell of a lot of hard work to me. Why not just try it instead of trying to find constant flaws in it. You may just be surprised ;)

If anyone else is really interested in further information before buying please call Lou on

413-367-0101

or email office@tropicmarin-usa.com

Uhhh, huh. Deleted a bunch of my points I see. I'll try to call TM and I'm sure I will confirm my thoughts. Too bad you can't seem to handle the discussion and questions about the product you sell.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand there goes the door. Lol

Turning of key

Aaaaaaand.....

Ron your only point on posting on here is because you are anti commercial products you have made that very clear in earlier threads. if you want to do something similar DIY then feel free here is how

get some baking soda
get some tank kill ice melt
get some epsom salts
hope to work out how the hell to balance that and then throw in as many trace elements you feel you dont need.

As I said from the start this system is not patented nor is it rocket science its basic chemistry if you feel you can do better and cheaper (which is your whole point of posting on this thread) Go for it.

But Ron I urge you please let it go you have said your piece we get it you are anti commercial products, so Please do not post here again this thread is not for you!

I want to keep this open for people that are interested in doing balling properly this thread is NOT for you to try and find a DIY recipe to show you are the big guy that can copy it and be successful, if you do then please start your own thread and show the group your amazing results.

This is a sponsors forum for showing and highlighting the products we carry not for someone to continue to prove it can also be done DIY! that we leave for Randy Holmes and Co.

But as above please stop posting here, its not fair on those that have genuine interest. I think I have been very good and polite up to this point of quickly answering all your round and round in circle questions, but i now must apologize and bid you farewell from this thread.

Nope not fair on those that have real interest in the Tropic marin system. It will stay open ;)

Here is a great online purchase option

http://dereksreefshop.ca/categories.php?category=289

I asked.a.Q earlier and am.still wondering

If my nsw for water changes is not balanced(as we know that salt values vary) then how am I able to keep my tank balanced. I do weekly wc and could see how it may upset the balance. If one was not concerned about nutrients export than you could for go wc as balling would keep level where they should be.